By Liz
Aug 20th 2008
at 9:40 am EDT
(Updated
Aug 20th 2008 at 9:40 am EDT)
interesting viewpoints from the old speechwriter of Nixon and Spiro Agnew.
In spite of what "Brer Fox" wrote, and while I hope by now that all realize I'm not a fan of the current administration, there are many cons to some of his arguments in this article.
First of all S. Ossetia is NOT an independent country nor is it part of Russia. It is a state within Georgia and as such has been recognized thusly for over 20 years. What S. Ossetia was doing was the equivalent of New Hampshire deciding to not be part of the US any longer.
Second of all Buchanan makes Putin appear like any other "Russian patriot defending his homeland" -- I really take exception with that one. I think that Putin has proven himself to be a world-class evil thug who is actually worse than Dick Cheney. Putin has been described by many as Staline's spiritual heir. More proof of Putin's "thug pudding" can be found in the events surrounding human rights abuses in Chechnya.
Russian Journalist Anna Politkovskaya, a prominent critic of Vladimir Putin was executed in her apartment on his birthday. There are few faces of pure evil more clearly drawn than that of Vladimir Putin.
I don't know what the best answer is, but I would take ANY suggestions from an old conservative like Pat Buchanan with a mountain of salt.
By Liz
Aug 20th 2008
at 9:46 am EDT
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Aug 20th 2008 at 9:46 am EDT)
LOL for those who may not know my style which tends toward my southern upbringing, I don't mean "Brer Fox" as in Fox news.
I mean it as the character from folk tales of the Uncle Rhemus stories who is always trying trick others--particularly Brer Rabbit (who from my viewpoint was a metaphor for black people). If you want to know whose side Uncle Rhemus was on, all you need to know is that Brer Rabbit always won. :)
I realize that Buchanan is a commentator for MSNBC (the network owned primarily by GE, the largest war contractor in the world).
By Rob-33704
Aug 20th 2008
at 10:39 am EDT
(Updated
Aug 20th 2008 at 10:39 am EDT)
In his article Buchanan wrote:
"From Harry Truman to Ronald Reagan, as Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, U.S. presidents have sought to avoid shooting wars with Russia, even when the Bear was at its most beastly."
Of course they did. As I have written before, there is more money to be made in stalemate than in victory.
But as I recall President Kennedy stood up to them in Berlin AND in Cuba.
Buchanan also wrote:
"The American people should be eternally grateful to Old Europe for having spiked the Bush-McCain plan to bring Georgia into NATO."
If Georgia had been admitted to NATO they might not have been silly enough to have done some of the things that they have done.
Another quote:
"And can we not understand how a Russian patriot like Vladimir Putin would be incensed by this U.S. encirclement after Russia shed its empire and sought our friendship?"
Patriot??????? Nationalist maybe. Patriot - I don't think so. He fed the Russian people to the economic dogs. That's not a patriot in my book.
But then, I don't see anything patriotic in
The (Un)Patriot(ic) Act either.
Then he finally wrote something I can agree with:
"Joe Biden ought to be conducting public hearings on who caused this U.S. humiliation."
Yes - and the guilty should be publically humiliated, then placed on trial for related criminal actions by them
In spite of what "Brer Fox" wrote, and while I hope by now that all realize I'm not a fan of the current administration, there are many cons to some of his arguments in this article.
First of all S. Ossetia is NOT an independent country nor is it part of Russia. It is a state within Georgia and as such has been recognized thusly for over 20 years. What S. Ossetia was doing was the equivalent of New Hampshire deciding to not be part of the US any longer.
Second of all Buchanan makes Putin appear like any other "Russian patriot defending his homeland" -- I really take exception with that one. I think that Putin has proven himself to be a world-class evil thug who is actually worse than Dick Cheney. Putin has been described by many as Staline's spiritual heir. More proof of Putin's "thug pudding" can be found in the events surrounding human rights abuses in Chechnya.
Russian Journalist Anna Politkovskaya, a prominent critic of Vladimir Putin was executed in her apartment on his birthday. There are few faces of pure evil more clearly drawn than that of Vladimir Putin.
I don't know what the best answer is, but I would take ANY suggestions from an old conservative like Pat Buchanan with a mountain of salt.
I mean it as the character from folk tales of the Uncle Rhemus stories who is always trying trick others--particularly Brer Rabbit (who from my viewpoint was a metaphor for black people). If you want to know whose side Uncle Rhemus was on, all you need to know is that Brer Rabbit always won. :)
I realize that Buchanan is a commentator for MSNBC (the network owned primarily by GE, the largest war contractor in the world).
"From Harry Truman to Ronald Reagan, as Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, U.S. presidents have sought to avoid shooting wars with Russia, even when the Bear was at its most beastly."
Of course they did. As I have written before, there is more money to be made in stalemate than in victory.
But as I recall President Kennedy stood up to them in Berlin AND in Cuba.
Buchanan also wrote:
"The American people should be eternally grateful to Old Europe for having spiked the Bush-McCain plan to bring Georgia into NATO."
If Georgia had been admitted to NATO they might not have been silly enough to have done some of the things that they have done.
Another quote:
"And can we not understand how a Russian patriot like Vladimir Putin would be incensed by this U.S. encirclement after Russia shed its empire and sought our friendship?"
Patriot??????? Nationalist maybe. Patriot - I don't think so. He fed the Russian people to the economic dogs. That's not a patriot in my book.
But then, I don't see anything patriotic in
The (Un)Patriot(ic) Act either.
Then he finally wrote something I can agree with:
"Joe Biden ought to be conducting public hearings on who caused this U.S. humiliation."
Yes - and the guilty should be publically humiliated, then placed on trial for related criminal actions by them