MI & FL: How Barack Obama is failing one primary test
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The situation with MI and FL is a real test of the candidates' leadership and commitment to working people - most of whom had no idea what was going on with the DNC rules.
In my assessment, Barack Obama is failing this test.
I'm a Michigan voter and Hillary supporter. I want to start out by accepting my share of the responsibility for the mess we're all in. However, I believe we democrats are now all in this together. It's breaking my heart to see so many people focusing their response to our situation on rules - not acknowledging how desperate Michigan is or how correct we were in our reasons for peaceful protest.
Michigan engaged in naughty, but very democratic behavior in moving its primary: civil disobedience. This is what's being lost.
Michigan was looking at the early four states and thinking, "Hey! None of those guys look like me!" And they didn't. IA, NH, NV, SC - none of those states looked anything like a big industrial state. The priorities of those states are very different from ours.
We were thinking, "Those early states will set the tone, identify who has "momentum" and determine who gets the money!" This is true - keep in mind that after IA, everyone was saying that if Senator Obama won NH, he could clinch the nomination.
We were thinking about our homes and our kids. Michigan needs a strong democrat in the white house, arguably more than any other state. Unemployment here is by far higher than anywhere else. We were the only state with statistically significant job losses last year - 78k jobs - while 22 states had statistically significant increases. And the news keeps coming - we're constantly hearing about jobs that will be leaving in a year or two. In my Dearborn neighborhood, I see so many stickered doors and for sale signs - new ones every day.
This is what we were thinking about in our "race to be first". It wasn't about vanity. It wasn't about attention...wait - yes it was. It was an absolutely desperate plea for some attention. Michigan was naughty. We were also right. Most importantly, though, we were and are in need.
I mentioned I'm a Hillary supporter, ironically because of a speech she gave that inspired me when I was a young voter. However, on January 1, Obama did seem like a mighty fine second. Unfortunately, his language around the topic of MI & FL has me so angry. I was so dismayed to hear him use this topic to bash Hillary for "saying and doing anything to get elected," rather than to acknowledge the struggles that drove our act of desperation.
I understand why the consequences were developed, and the concerns about any message disregarding them might send. However, I taught for a while, and I learned quickly that consequences dealt with empathy are the most effective. They allow people to feel OK about taking responsibility for their actions - they increase the likelihood of future compliance while building trust & community. Consequences dealt with indifference or spite result in the kind of mess we're in now. Anger, anger, and a bit more anger - with a lot of talk about things not being fair.
It might be true that neither candidate is to blame, but both candidates are running to be our leaders. I don't think either candidate can be trusted to lead if they don't take a leadership role in resolving this issue. Leaving it up to the DNC and states, who clearly haven't been able to solve it, shows at best a lack of leadership, and at worst an attempt to dismiss voters for political gain.
I think it is a real test of the candidates' commitment to working people - most of whom had no idea what was going on with the state and national comities until it was too late. By choosing to repeatedly site the rules and defer to the DNC and now opposing Michigan's "firehouse" primary, rather than using his incredible fund raising skills to help cover the cost of a re-vote, Senator Obama seems to be failing that test.
In my assessment, Barack Obama is failing this test.
I'm a Michigan voter and Hillary supporter. I want to start out by accepting my share of the responsibility for the mess we're all in. However, I believe we democrats are now all in this together. It's breaking my heart to see so many people focusing their response to our situation on rules - not acknowledging how desperate Michigan is or how correct we were in our reasons for peaceful protest.
Michigan engaged in naughty, but very democratic behavior in moving its primary: civil disobedience. This is what's being lost.
Michigan was looking at the early four states and thinking, "Hey! None of those guys look like me!" And they didn't. IA, NH, NV, SC - none of those states looked anything like a big industrial state. The priorities of those states are very different from ours.
We were thinking, "Those early states will set the tone, identify who has "momentum" and determine who gets the money!" This is true - keep in mind that after IA, everyone was saying that if Senator Obama won NH, he could clinch the nomination.
We were thinking about our homes and our kids. Michigan needs a strong democrat in the white house, arguably more than any other state. Unemployment here is by far higher than anywhere else. We were the only state with statistically significant job losses last year - 78k jobs - while 22 states had statistically significant increases. And the news keeps coming - we're constantly hearing about jobs that will be leaving in a year or two. In my Dearborn neighborhood, I see so many stickered doors and for sale signs - new ones every day.
This is what we were thinking about in our "race to be first". It wasn't about vanity. It wasn't about attention...wait - yes it was. It was an absolutely desperate plea for some attention. Michigan was naughty. We were also right. Most importantly, though, we were and are in need.
I mentioned I'm a Hillary supporter, ironically because of a speech she gave that inspired me when I was a young voter. However, on January 1, Obama did seem like a mighty fine second. Unfortunately, his language around the topic of MI & FL has me so angry. I was so dismayed to hear him use this topic to bash Hillary for "saying and doing anything to get elected," rather than to acknowledge the struggles that drove our act of desperation.
I understand why the consequences were developed, and the concerns about any message disregarding them might send. However, I taught for a while, and I learned quickly that consequences dealt with empathy are the most effective. They allow people to feel OK about taking responsibility for their actions - they increase the likelihood of future compliance while building trust & community. Consequences dealt with indifference or spite result in the kind of mess we're in now. Anger, anger, and a bit more anger - with a lot of talk about things not being fair.
It might be true that neither candidate is to blame, but both candidates are running to be our leaders. I don't think either candidate can be trusted to lead if they don't take a leadership role in resolving this issue. Leaving it up to the DNC and states, who clearly haven't been able to solve it, shows at best a lack of leadership, and at worst an attempt to dismiss voters for political gain.
I think it is a real test of the candidates' commitment to working people - most of whom had no idea what was going on with the state and national comities until it was too late. By choosing to repeatedly site the rules and defer to the DNC and now opposing Michigan's "firehouse" primary, rather than using his incredible fund raising skills to help cover the cost of a re-vote, Senator Obama seems to be failing that test.


I have made so many posts on the MI & FL delegate issue that I feel like Mr. Spam. Having removed this stumbling block I now offer a way to save face plus polish the party.
For a round number let’s use the $30M that has been bantered about as expense for primary votes in both MI & FL. This amount of money will pay 300 public school teachers each a $100,000 salary for the year. By the way, this is about what we should pay public school teachers, as public education is a HUGE problem in the USA. Anyone agree that lack of quality public education is the root of most our solvable problems? Recently read an article about a new school to open in Washington Heights, NY that will offer this level of pay in effort to address this issue.
So the democrats start a new school with this money & more that should be able to be raised for this good cause. This would show the citizens of USA (Republicans, Democrats, Independents, etc.) that the Democrats can talk the talk & walk the walk. In short, not just about individual candidates …that we offer help, etc…Oh, if you are wondering about the 366 FL & MI delegates… Once again read my post as I already explained they will not count.
However, if we stick to the path I have outlined I believe this ‘education thing’ could become viral & after few decades we could have a well-educated population that avoids such dilemmas. OH, and we can start with a PRIMARY school…. We will all start to learn!
I do support public education. That's one of the many reasons why I support Hillary. Not only does she support early childhood education - she's already been involved in making it happen. She kept Chelsea in public schools until they got to the white house - there, security advisers urged that she needed to be in a private school for her safety and privacy, so they put her in a Friends school. It was a tough decision, but I can respect it. I have my own kiddo now, and I'm struggling with that.
I also taught in an urban public school for 3 years. Had the salary been $100k, I still don't know if I could have stayed (I make something in between). It was the hardest job I'll ever volunteer for, as it nearly destroyed me emotionally. I'm fighting hard in this campaign to get the best for the kids I taught - I believe that's Hillary Clinton.
All that said...if the process of democracy wasn't also important, we wouldn't need an educated populace. If, in Obama's mind, it's worth spending most of the $50M/month on TV spots to win upcoming states, why would it not be worth $15M to ensure some of the country's neediest voters are heard?
This is an off-the-cuff response. I might have to revisit it. I do appreciate the food for thought.
I think this ia another case of Obama telling me to set a high standard for him while at the same time, missing the mark.
What is Obama going to do once elected? Defer to the DNC? That's ludicrous. The party has said a redo is fine. Dean has said even a mail-in is fine. Obama's skirting the issue.
I wrote a post earlier on the situation here - on who should pay (MI's party) and why we can't.
Why should Obama and his big money supporters feel compelled to pay? Because he has buckets of money and a desire to be our leader. That's kind of like saying, "Why should our government foot the bill for that kid's insurance when the parent screwed up and got a job with no insurance?" Very few Michigan voters had any clue what was going on at the party level. Should they pay? They can't. The MI dems can't pay. So, nobody who might be at fault can pay. The people that are being impacted certainly can't pay.
And you're right - Obama's under absolutely no obligation to pay either. He just could, if he cared to, but he doesn't. He'd prefer the redo never happen.
But, let's stick with the rules. And let's be sure to be mean and ugly about it...that's really working out really well.
2)MI and FL leadership decided to break those rules, knowing what the consequences would be.
3)Instead of working with their state leadership to correct the situation, FL and MI voters are calling for the DNC and the candidates to foot the bill for a re-do?
I'm sorry, I fail to see any validity or logic in your argument.
My own position is that Michigan should be a do over. Florida, since all names were on the ballot, should be counted. However, their total delegation should be docked due to their violation of party rules.