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This is why marriage matters, and civil union isn't enough.

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Isn't it time for one of the top tier Dems to stand up for true family values. Can someone explain why as a gay American I'm not entitled to equal protection under the law?

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brian,
By annie b (mcliberal) Sep 30th 2007 at 3:31 pm EDT
this link is not working for me. another one, maybe?
  
Link
By Brian In NYC Sep 30th 2007 at 3:40 pm EDT
Re: Link
By annie b (mcliberal) Sep 30th 2007 at 4:26 pm EDT
thank you. it worked.
  
Here's the article
By Brian In NYC Sep 30th 2007 at 3:41 pm EDT
Three weeks ago, in Utah County, a niece asked her uncle to take her 4 kids. To care for them because she can't. She's dealing with drug-related criminal matters - and the kids are aged 11, 6, 2-years, and 10 months. The father's not able to care for them either.

The uncle happens to be gay, and in a long term relationship. Michael Valdez and Michael Oberg have been together for about 5 years. They have steady jobs, a nice home, and no criminal record - but they aren't allowed by law to take-in the needy kids.

Utah says that to adopt or be a foster parent, you must be legally married - or single - and not cohabitating. It doesn't license foster couples who aren't legally married. In other words, gay Uncle Valdez could foster or adopt if he wasn't in a steady, thriving relationship. If he was "single".

Officials asked the court to take custody of the kids or grant custody to the state's Division of Child and Family Services. The Daily Herald reports that, on Friday, the courts took custody, then granted Valdez temporary custody of the children.

The judge said, "I see absolutely no reason why the kids can't stay where they're at."

The 11-year-old child said, "I would rather live with my mom. But if I can't, I'd rather live here."

Michael is already a father. Gabrielle Valdez, his 17-year-old biological daughter, said that their home is like any other, complete with family dinners, concerns over school work and regular jobs.

Utah joins Florida and Mississippi with outright bans on gay parents.

According to KSL.com and Utah's Division of Child and Family Services, there are 2,600 children in the state's foster program.
  
brian,
By annie b (mcliberal) Sep 30th 2007 at 4:34 pm EDT
those states are twisted. i am doing some research and i will have some info for you soon. well, after the sox game..... but here is a start: Link
  
The answer to your question is no.
By none Sep 30th 2007 at 6:23 pm EDT
The answer to your question is no. You gays kill me. By that I mean every major change in the world takes time. You gays want everything and you want it now. Well it ain't gonna happen and it shouldn't. Look how long it took for black people to get recognized as real people. So just be happy with baby steps and maybe each baby step after 10 or 20 years will lead to a bigger step. Right now your are hurting yourselves more than you are helping yourselves. Don't force yourselves on a country, or a world, that's not ready yet. The more you try to force yourselves on the country/world the more you will be rejected, and that's as it should be.
This may hurt your feeling, but I quite frankly don't care. The truth generally does hurt.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By Jim A. Sep 30th 2007 at 6:33 pm EDT
There is your answer, people like Ham are why what you wish isnt a reality.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By Brian In NYC Sep 30th 2007 at 6:37 pm EDT
Exactly, too many bigots, too fee decent people willing to step forward and say "enough is enough". And yes Ham I know you don't consider yourself a bigot but how come you post on just about every post dealing with equal rights for gay people.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By annie b (mcliberal) Sep 30th 2007 at 8:31 pm EDT
don't waste your breath on that guy. he sent me a private message once to tell me to go to hell. because i posted about environmentally friendly cat litter. sadly, we can't screen for haters here. if we did, half the blog would disappear.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By Brian In NYC Sep 30th 2007 at 10:23 pm EDT
I thought all the haters left the party after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act. I guess Ham didn't get the menu.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By none Oct 1st 2007 at 12:30 am EDT
How about for the 4th time I tell you to go to hell.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By none Oct 1st 2007 at 12:30 am EDT
First of all shit for brains this is probably only the second post I've responded to on this subject. Second of all shit for brains your the bigot in this conversation because you want everything your way. At least I told you to be patient but no you god-damn gay bigots want and want it all right now. So blow blow you bullshit out your ass.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By none Oct 1st 2007 at 12:34 am EDT
Jim A these gay bigots want everything and want it now. Why don't you re-read exactly what I said and then please break all the fingers on both your hands because you embarrass yourself when you try to type because obviously your brain and your fingers aren't connected together.... There doesn't seem to be any connection problem between your brain and you ass.
Re: The answer to your question is no.
By Brian In NYC Oct 1st 2007 at 1:16 pm EDT
As always Ham, thanks for proving my point.