For Those Anti-Obama White Women Democrats That Require Clarification....
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There is just too much hatred and desire for Barack to fail being allowed to continue without rebuttal by you. Anyone that takes that position should feel ashamed of themselves.

You are not idiots and know full well the consequence of another republican administration, yet you continue to remain visceral and downright obnoxious in your not only your attack of Senator Obama, but your hellbent commitment to be a part of that which desires he fail.

I understand full well that there are those within the democratic party that do not support Barack as the nominee - that goes without saying. The same would be true if HRC were the nominee - and that goes without saying.

But to purposely and vehemently seek the democratic party's presidential nominee's political demise at any cost - by those that proclaim to be democrats fringes on being malicious.

There is nothing positive in protesting with vicious attacks amongst those that are supposed to be on your side.

All else aside: the personal insults, the whining on all sides, the smears, slanders, bullying, push down and push back are nothing more than an insult on the intelligence of the majority of those that support Senator Obama.

It perputuates - albeit I stay silent on this as some just can not grasp this idea and discuss it as the reality - what Tim Wise makes effort to expose:

"When I say your whiteness is showing this is what I mean: You claim that your opposition to Obama is an act of gender solidarity, in that women (and their male allies) need to stand up for women in the face of the sexist mistreatment of Clinton by the press. On this latter point--the one about the importance of standing up to the media for its often venal misogyny--you couldn't be more correct. As the father of two young girls who will have to contend with the poison of patriarchy all their lives, or at least until such time as that system of oppression is eradicated, I will be the first to join the boycott of, or demonstration on, whatever media outlet you choose to make that point. But on the first part of the above equation--the part where you insist voting against Obama is about gender solidarity--you are, for lack of a better way to put it, completely full of crap. And what's worse is that at some level I suspect you know it. Voting against Senator Obama is not about gender solidarity. It is an act of white racial bonding, and it is grotesque."

I said all this to say - it's time to for those to stop finding ways to destroy our party from the inside out for a so called greater good.

No other party's core constituency (older and/or white women) at any time in history has demonstrated the mean spirited attitude and ill intent than those - (and I am speaking to anti-Obama white women on THIS site, at this juncture) have demonstrated on this blog alone.

It's a pitiful - embaressing shame.

Reader Comments
  
Re: .
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:37 pm EDT
jack. i have had enough. its time for some to say what they really feel and stop hiding behind the lie that it's about something other than what it is.
Re: .
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:07 pm EDT
You called out the race baby, keep it up there will be blood in the streets. I have had enough of that race shit. Get in the Human Race!
Re: .
By jb1985 Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:47 pm EDT
Jack GREAT COMMENT ...

"Anti-Obama White Woman Democrats?

Nice Deb."
  
Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By Lincoln Park Dem Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:38 pm EDT
Deb you completely, absolutely nailed it!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By jb1985 Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:45 pm EDT
NOT true I AM WHITE and Obama was an ok guy with me even though I supported Hillary........
It was Wright, Ayers, Rezko, and the many others that came out and he just kept smiling and yelling change without saying what change and look at his change now.......
NO COLOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
CHARACTER AND RECORD HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT
So try that one again and quit your moaning and hiding behind a race card......
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By jb1985 Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:45 pm EDT
And I DON'T give it FIVE STARS.....
Just wrote a comment under that comment....
GIG GIG feel it?
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:51 pm EDT
if this does not apply to you than you have no need to worry.

and btw - i ain't looking for stars although its appreciated that someone grasps what i am saying.

not many rate me positive on this blog as i do not speak always to peace - love and unity.

why - because it's barely in exsistence here on PB.

me - racist? not hardly. me - fed up with the ILLITERATE HALF BAKED BS? YES!
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:09 pm EDT
Hey, I am a Jew and I know what race baiting is. You are disgusting and it is over. You want war you have got it.
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:11 pm EDT
i am not in a "war" with you. the issue is - you can not communicate what your fears are and defend your decision without making it personal.
Re: Five Stars!!!!!!!!
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:26 pm EDT
sTOP THE RACE CRAP
  
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:40 pm EDT
you dear jen - are the catalyst.
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Obama/Biden4highserenity Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:44 pm EDT
you may have to define catalyst
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Lincoln Park Dem Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:42 pm EDT
jen...that was last part was realy disguisting.

Don't belittle yourself..
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Obama/Biden4highserenity Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:47 pm EDT
kidding ---right?
and I am not refering to the disgusing part
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:55 pm EDT
Jenni, you aint got no money. lololol
How can you send anyone anywhere. Broke and angry
  
Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:41 pm EDT
I am damn fnkn sick of the white racist remarks. I am a woman and An American, and I will not Support Barak Obama.

Now if you continue to be a racist, keep us the racist posts! I have had enough of them today. How much do you want for the reparations, so I can shut your fnk mouth!
Re: Racist
By Lincoln Park Dem Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:43 pm EDT
donate tha max $2,300 to Obama and I will never say another thing about race.
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:45 pm EDT
No, I will not piss my money away on anyone with no competencies. You just dont get it. the gay bashing the racist hate the whites. You all are poor excuses of human beings.
Re: Racist
By Obama/Biden4highserenity Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:55 pm EDT
Ya, Jack says that gays aren't really supporting Obama---it JUST LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE---- because Obama is making them revise their gay publications.

I don't understand how anyone could post that the gay communitee is so corrupt as to revise their publications after they have already been distributed, but that is what Jack claims----but he does say he has no proof.
Re: Racist
By Obama/Biden4highserenity Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:03 pm EDT
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:36 pm EDT
Your a racust discriminatory piece if filth. Who the fk cares about Obama, this was not fkn issue, maggots, your just a bunch of maggots. The race baiting,m the racist remarks about women, whites and gays. you will get yours just wait, and God will do it, it will not be pretty,
Re: Racist
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:58 pm EDT
sandi - if thats your reasoning than stand on that - and not on the other nonsense.

i told you guys before - not a one jot on this blog is a racist - no one. BUT if you cloak yourself in an argument without justification - you leave yourself open to suspicion of your true motives.

if you feel Barack is "incompetent" than address that without perpetrating that it's some how tied to an concerted effort to unite against the party.

say what YOU feel and back it up.

otherwise your argument has no foundation.
Re: Racist
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:44 pm EDT
well its too late for being sick and tired, i've been sick and tired too.

you may call me what you THINK i am - but you have no idea who i am or what i stand for and do not need to defend my opinions to anyone on this blog.

if you don't like the reality that i am pointing out - than i apologize for that - but its' not my fault.

its the reality and its becoming more and more apparent in the continued posts that push a flawed solidarity in an effort to make a bogus point.
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:51 pm EDT
You are a racist that hates whites, get a life and get into the human race
Re: Racist
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:53 pm EDT
no racial paranoia in me hon. only disgust for those that can not have an intelligent discussion on what the real deal is.
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:59 pm EDT
Yep, you are and have shown your colors. You are a Jew hating bi@@h. You want race wars, you have got it.
Re: Racist
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:05 pm EDT
Is someone here suppose to be scared of you??
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:23 pm EDT
Well baby, I am not scared of you! And your white posts are going to be posted in the newspapers in Arizona,. We will see how that helps Obama, and you sure have a lot of white hate. Maybe it will make the NY Times, I have friends in NY.
Re: Racist
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:06 pm EDT
no - you lack the ability to talk to me and because of that - you make an effort to insult me or try and hurt my feelings.

say you think about Barack. it's not about me as i am not running for public office and don't have anywhere to put any of you.

you are mad at BARACK - not me.

you are mad at the DNC - not me.

you are mad because HRC is not the nominee - not me.

if you say what your true fears are - than we can have a conversation - until then - your name calling does not bother me one bit. i have been called worse.
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:25 pm EDT
I did not post the white race, you did., I will go through your blogs and they will be in the newspapers if there is anything about hate white. You better believe it,.
Disparaging comments will not be tolerated.
Re: Racist
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:56 pm EDT
Sandi, every body is a racist to you. Where you born to late??
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:02 pm EDT
You have been posting hate whites every since you got on this blog. There is no human race to you. it is all about color. You love this post, it is more bashing of the whites. You are are not human, so go back to racist church and preach about hate whites and you are the only one that has had strife, slavery, killing in your life and everybody owes you something, and piss on every one else.
Re: Racist
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:10 pm EDT
When you hate people as much as you do, it makes wrinkles grow on your face.
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:41 pm EDT
you are the one that calls racisim, you are the one that puts up all the post about blacks. HATE WHITES, that is who you are. And your too dumb to get it!
  
thanks
By Obama/Biden4highserenity Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:43 pm EDT
I am going to restrain myself from adding to your blog, as you pretty much NAILED IT EXACTLY
five stars
  
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:50 pm EDT
A weed produces a Flower. Yet it is still a weed.

Jenni, I never saw an ugly flower til now. Wow
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:31 pm EDT
Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!11
  
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 8:56 pm EDT
You bet, Hispanics, Indians, Jews. Asians and Whites. We have had enough of these Black racists that are in me me me me me syndrom. We have all had our shit, and they are no better, suffered more than the rest of us. If some other Bi@@h comes on here and starts that white bashing shit, I will do what I need to do. The race card has been played one too many times.
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Barbara"Obama/Biden"Hussein Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:02 pm EDT
You wish your peeps made it here during the black gold rush dont you Sandi. Thats why you are so bitter.

Wow.

You cant even see straight. pitiful. Hater! Just hating all the day long. I so glad there arent many of you still in America. You are a dying breed.

Thank God
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:05 pm EDT
I am a Jew B@@ch, your a racist You do not like me speaking out on hate. Just fester in that white hate, just wallow in it, it is your soul you are burning, And, you call yourself a Christian. I am not like Obama, I leave hate Churchs!
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:27 pm EDT
i LIVE IN AMERICA, SPEAK ENGLISH.
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:02 pm EDT
the race card exsists because its your reality.

i have NEVER brought up race as being the reason someone not voting for Barack. NEVER.

but when i look at the constant - ongoing - never ending - relentless - mean attacks against Senator Obama without being provoked - again I have to question the motives.
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:30 pm EDT
]]I hire people for jobs for aa living. I do not hire on inspiration, but skills and experience, So cool your jets attacking white women. Jen may think she is White, but I know what race a Jew is. We are middle eastern decent.
Re: THE ONLY THING I LIKE ABOUT BHO...
By Jane Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:32 pm EDT
Jen, you sure are sharp on your feet!
  
Re: Racist
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:21 pm EDT
She did not post the blog about White Women, I have heard enough hate whites today via Ms. Fistbumps. Let me tell, you Hispanics are getting tired of it, Jews are getting tired of it, and so are white women, So keep this poor me me me me up and bashing gays, whites and who ever else these people bash. they even bash their own race. I am damn fed up, and I am going to keep this post as well as all the other posts bashing whites and gays and print it in our local newspaper. This is just a bunch of sht. And I dont care what color you are, wrong ideas of discrimination and hate are just wrong ideas.

Now for Jews, we know what racism is when your almost exterminated. Talk about slavery for centuries, we know that. Do you hear us screaming all the time against the Whites! Absolutely not. This Black bunch will not let any of us be just human beings. I can tell you Jewish people are getting angrier and angrier. As well as other minorities that have had the same fate. This is not some mmmmeeeee Black person. STOP THE H
ATE

O
N
ALL RACES
Disparaging comments will not be tolerated.
  
The problem -
By Jane Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:11 pm EDT
The problem with your blog is that it is incorrect.

"For Those Anti-Obama White Women Democrats That Require Clarification...." - need I say more about that awful statement?

For most, this is NOT simply about Hillary.

This is about the nomination being STOLEN from its rightful candidate.

This is about a HOSTILE TAKEOVER of the Democratic Party.

This is about using others' HOPES FOR CHANGE to pursue personal vendettas on the political platform at a time in America's history when we need people to come together.

This is about VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT.

This is about sexism.

This is about STEALING Delegates from one candidate and GIVING THOSE Delegates to the other candidate.

This is about the obvious disregard for fair play.

This is about classism, being taken advantage of, not being respected...and so much more.

So, if you feel it's a pitiful shame to have responses to offenses committed, then you have that right to that opinion - at this moment in time.

But watch out, with the Patriot Act, McCarthyism is right around the corner.
Re: The problem -
By Deb Wiliams Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:17 pm EDT
that makes the most sense of those that oppose Senator Obama's nomination more than anything else posted.

you state sensibly your position - which i can respect, but we have got to find a way to get through this.

and get through it - without name calling.

an observation and an opinion - even when its at odds with a persons point of view - its valuable and worthy of discussion - until it crosses the line.

hell - no one knows me personally on this blog - i could be your kids school bus driver - your babysitter - your kids school teacher - your financial advisor - we don't know each other like that.

what i am pointing out - is there is something more to the discontent - and it's not being expressed.
Re: The problem -
By Jane Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:24 pm EDT
One more thought -

This is NOT a white vs. other issue.

This is an ETHICS issue.

This is an INTEGRITY issue.

This is a RESPECT issue. Respect for others AND respect for yourself.

This is a HUMAN EQUALITY ISSUE.

This is about you being as important as the next person AND recognizeing and respect that. This is about being able to voice your concerns without being disregarded for your opinion.

This is so much deeper than any posts I've seen so far - mainly because there is this barrier of "my Daddy's better than your Daddy" mentality.

Until humans address the HUMAN EQUALITY ISSUE we will never know peace.
Re: The problem -
By Sandi Jul 23rd 2008 at 9:43 pm EDT
Thank you, they just do not get it. There is no human beings, just about color.
  
in retrospect......
By Deb Wiliams Aug 6th 2008 at 10:15 pm EDT (Updated Aug 6th 2008 at 10:15 pm EDT)
i hope that anyone that happens on upon this blog takes the comments for what they are. mine as well as the ones that posted.

they are comments made in response to a perception that i have regarding a particular mindset that has always been there.

many will give you "personal" reasons for their non support of Senator Obama, but foor the most part those reasons are not based in facts. they are based on fears.

fear of change, fear of the unknown, fear of losing control.

the racial paranoia is the country is alive and well, some refuse to believe there is even such a thing, while some know it exsists.

we can not move the discussion forward until the ones that refuse to believe that there is a problem perceived by some. you have to know where the other person is coming from and why and you must have a goal as to what the end result will be.

for me - the result i want - is to be able express what i feel without being shouted at and insulted - even if its a touchy subject such as racism.

the comments to be post demonstrates that i may just have struck a nerve and actually held up a mirror that reveals a not too pretty reflection.