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That is crazy? Where is Jackie's Blogs?

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Re: Well
By Rubymom Jun 17th 2008 at 6:04 pm EDT
wow, what happened to freedom of speech? This is the "Democatic Party" blog right? lol
Re: Well
By Someonewhocares Jun 17th 2008 at 6:07 pm EDT
As far as I know Jackie is banned..... or just blocked from getting in.
Re: Well
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:10 pm EDT
He is on my friends list and is still there. I clicked on his name and his profile & blogs are there, but not on here. Also, Little Dine' had a comment that someone left on one of HIS blogs got deleted too. What the heck is going on?
Re: Well
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:13 pm EDT
If you click on any of them though, it says invalid page/url. Wow. This is a great way to find unity.
I can't imagine he was banned
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 6:51 pm EDT
Sometimes he deletes his own posts - you know - housecleaning.
Re: I can't imagine he was banned
By illinoismel Jun 17th 2008 at 6:59 pm EDT
No, he didn't. He sent me communication, they were deleted.
Just saw a post from Michael Link
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:16 pm EDT
on another blog. Site problems erased a lot of blogs and posts across the board. And messed up the PMs, too.
Re: Just saw a post from Michael Link
By illinoismel Jun 17th 2008 at 7:19 pm EDT
He said he couldn't log in either, but maybe that was part of the issue - don't know.
Re: Just saw a post from Michael Link
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:22 pm EDT
Well didn't Michael Link make a post stating that there might be problems but they are working hard to correct them
  
Yeah
By Someonewhocares Jun 17th 2008 at 6:03 pm EDT
I was wondering the same thing they are all gone it seems
  
Re: Well
By Hope4America, CA Delegate At-Large Jun 17th 2008 at 6:39 pm EDT
Actually, on barackobama.com, we often have disagreements. However, no one on barackobama.com recommends that people vote for McCain.

And no one turns on Hillary (or the message is deleted.)

Feel free to join my groups on barackobama.com:
Link
http://my.barackobama.com/page /group/LALatinosForObama
Re: Well
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 6:47 pm EDT
Hope4America......YUK!!!
  
It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:09 pm EDT
to post personal attack posts against any other individuals here.

The site moderator is a human being just like the rest of us, and attacking him personally is against the ToS.
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By Someonewhocares Jun 17th 2008 at 6:12 pm EDT
But allot of us have been attacked personally. Also unless I missed it I did not think Jackie attacked the mod personally. I could have missed it I had trouble getting back on pb for a while
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:15 pm EDT
Jackie wrote several posts and called the mod a facist bastard who needed to kiss his ass. If any of us had written that stuff about any of each other, we'd have gotten deleted. Anyone. There used to be a BIG problem last year with people writing personal attack posts... so it's in the ToS now that you can't. Jackie will be back, I'm sure.
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:17 pm EDT
Right. I have been attacked personally, and so has Jack. I was reading through Jack's blogs before they were deleted and he was not attacking anyone personally, he was upset that comments/replies were being deleted from his blogs. Wow. If he thought that any dissenters were being silenced before, he'll SURE think so now!
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:19 pm EDT
Has someone written a post and named you in the main post and attacked you?

If yes, then report it as a ToS violation. If you aren't sure how to do that, then PM me and I will help you make sure it is reported.

Insulting someone in a comment is pretty much over looked, but writing a MAIN POST for the purpose of attacking someone, is a major ToS violation.
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By illinoismel Jun 17th 2008 at 6:46 pm EDT
I think we both know a couple of individuals that were reported and nothing happened at all . . .
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:23 pm EDT
we have reported them it did no good
  
Re: this is very scary...
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:11 pm EDT
what's scary about terms of service?

If I wrote a post about you, and used your name and attacked you and said awful things, then I'd get banned. So I don't do that to people. It's really, really easy to NOT get banned. You just agree to the terms of service for use of this website.
Re: this is very scary...
By Wendy ~Democrat For Life Jun 17th 2008 at 6:14 pm EDT
I totally agree...everyone agrees to the ToS when you sign up. Nothing scary about it, if you break the rules that you agreed to you should be banned.
Re: this is very scary...
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:34 pm EDT
What rules where broken? This sounds kind of facist to me. What did they do?
Re: this is very scary...
By Someonewhocares Jun 17th 2008 at 6:15 pm EDT
It's not about the terms of service it is about the selection in how those terms are enforced.
Re: this is very scary...
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:17 pm EDT
Obama supporters have been deleted as well.
Re: this is very scary...
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:28 pm EDT
AnneK, Are you the moderator?
Re: this is very scary...
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:31 pm EDT
Who has been deleted?
Re: this is very scary...
By Democrat in Boca Raton, FL Jun 17th 2008 at 6:25 pm EDT
BO supporters call everyone names. If you get angry at them they turn you in and call you trolls & racist etc. Prove to me that BO supporters have been deleted too?
Re: this is very scary...
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 6:33 pm EDT
yeah prove it...I don't believe any BO supporters have been banned.....yeah prove it.....
  
Not juist blogs, but also comments on blog posts.
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jun 17th 2008 at 6:11 pm EDT
Someone posted comment on my blog post Obama's views, to thje effect that Obama's pet legislation bill on Global Poverty program for 854 trillion dollars having been rushed through to secure a major victory for senator Obama, giving details on the reparation as pork added to legislation, according to the comment, vanished from my blog as I was following instructions from grandpa to copy comment to file.

I did pursue research on the comment that dissapeared and Voila, it has passed.
Can someone enlighten me on this. Is it tied to reparations for slavery issues?
Grandpa believes there is something very fishy going on here on the PB site.
Peace to all.
Little Dine'
Re: Not juist blogs, but also comments on blog posts.
By Someonewhocares Jun 17th 2008 at 6:22 pm EDT
I agree lil Dine.... Jackie was pissed comments were being deleted now blogs have been deleted and Jackie has been banned. Things just keep getting crazier.
Re: PLEASE COPY MY POST AND CIRCULATE IT!
By Hope4America, CA Delegate At-Large Jun 17th 2008 at 6:45 pm EDT
I am going to report you instead!
Re: PLEASE COPY MY POST AND CIRCULATE IT!
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:53 pm EDT
You are nuts! I am new on this site, but boy what Dictator country did you come from!
Re: Not just blogs, but also comments on blog posts.
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jun 17th 2008 at 6:51 pm EDT
Why would they do that to jackie, he may be passionate, but is not outright insultive to anyone. Is there anyway we can all send appea's to the web mastyer to get him back on. He always has something good to offer especially with his inspirational poems. Does it have anything to do with his mailer PM on tonights confrontation to Obama on PB regarding the aged, gay and women's rights?
I wonder about that. I hope he is allowed back on. Peace to all here.
Little Dine'
  
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:17 pm EDT
Actually, I can name 3 Obama supporters who have been deleted for personal attacks.

KevinConnor, in his original account, JPFenyo in a couple of accounts, and one other.... argh, I forget the name.. it'll come to me.
Shogun was deleted
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 6:53 pm EDT
But I was never sure who he supported!
THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By Hope4America, CA Delegate At-Large Jun 17th 2008 at 6:44 pm EDT
I AM PLEASED THAT THEY DELETED THE PROBLEM POSTERS. DNC WAS LETTING IT GET OUT OF HAND. I THINK THEY ARE GETTING THE GROUPS BACK ON TRACK!

We have a candidate; let's get to work and support him - and stop with the personal attacks!!!


THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!


=]

Hope4
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:49 pm EDT
I am new to this blog. Do you mean that only certain ideas can be put on this blog? I would think everyone could speak their mind. Without saying filthy things.
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:00 pm EDT
Cookie.....pretty much....LOL I'm trying to find out who is the one with the power. So, I can insult them and get the heck out.... I've try to block the Dem info from my e-mail account. Somehow they keep getting through. So, I figure I get on enough people's nerves they'll delete me......hell I've been disliked by better so what the hey
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:00 pm EDT
Cookie.....pretty much....LOL I'm trying to find out who is the one with the power. So, I can insult them and get the heck out.... I've try to block the Dem info from my e-mail account. Somehow they keep getting through. So, I figure I get on enough people's nerves they'll delete me......hell I've been disliked by better so what the hey
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jun 17th 2008 at 7:10 pm EDT
HopeforAmerica, I find your comment obnoxious, selfserving, and totally defining you as an extremely PAwky individual. do you feel serendipitious, OR ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF THE FACT YOU ARE BEING INSULTING TO ALL IN GENERAL.
wITH ALL DUE RESPECT MAAM, i HOPE YOUY ARE THE NEXT ONE TO BE DELETED.
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By SciBlue Jun 17th 2008 at 7:12 pm EDT
I would think that you would be in favor of people's right to express their opinions even if they are different from yours. Isn't that something normally favored by the Democratic party?
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:21 pm EDT
Sciblue.....this is the NEW Democratic party site. Haven't you read all those move over old Dem's, pass the torch, post that the NEW DEM'S have written in these blogging areas.
  
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By AnneK Jun 17th 2008 at 6:22 pm EDT
If he was deleted entirely, it was for a personal attack on the mod. I read it.

He'll be back. He'll start another account like others who are banned have done several times. They don't actually ever KEEP anyone off the blog. People just make new accounts and keep right on going.
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 6:24 pm EDT
Hell what do I have to say for them to completely delete me. I've tried several times requested that they remove me still won't. Supposedly sent me a set of numbers to type in for deletion approval..the damn numbers don't work... Tell me who do I insult, call dirty names Dean, who! Obama his mama, his wife who?
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By SciBlue Jun 17th 2008 at 6:39 pm EDT
Girl, that's funny. :)
Re: It is against the Terms of Service agreement here
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:46 pm EDT
lol
  
What
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:30 pm EDT
Why are peoples blogs being banned. I thought everyone could speak their views?
  
Re: What
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:40 pm EDT
What! You can only support Obama here! No different ideas and solutions?
Re: What
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:47 pm EDT
Apparently not.
  
The site is having problems
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 6:35 pm EDT
I've posted good things about Obama that were deleted. The site is down, for w while I couldn't even log in. Don't assume anything. Chill.

Link
Re: The site is having problems
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 6:43 pm EDT
I mis-spoke. Comments and part of a post that were there 5 minutes ago are gone now. One was mine. it does 'appear' to be moderated. Don't know,.
Re: The site is having problems
By Michael Link Jun 17th 2008 at 6:43 pm EDT
Yeah, sorry about unexpected login problems with PB. It lasted about half an hour until we were able to fix it.
Re: The site is having problems
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:57 pm EDT
Michael,
Did you delete Jackie? Can we discuss issues here and sometimes not be in agreement? I am new so when I opened this blog, I was surprised to here that some people are threatening others.
  
Re: this is very scary...
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:51 pm EDT
AnneK needs to go, she is dangerous!
Re: this is very scary...
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:04 pm EDT
Oh so AnnK is the one. Ann you're a fascist pig.
Re: this is very scary...
By SciBlue Jun 17th 2008 at 7:13 pm EDT
Stop it, you're killing me! :)
  
Re: The site is having problems
By Hope4America, CA Delegate At-Large Jun 17th 2008 at 6:48 pm EDT
He was causing problems.
Re: The site is having problems
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 6:54 pm EDT
What does causing problems mean? You are scarey! Sounds like Sci=fi lunitic movie!
Re: The site is having problems
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:32 pm EDT
how was Jackie causing problems?
You're assuming he was banned
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:00 pm EDT
I don't think he was. Sure, he goes off sometimes but I do a lot worse. Sometimes he deletes his own blogs - I think maybe he finds it cathartic, but we will have to wait for him to come back on and confirm.

Also, I can't think that many people would report him. He doesn't like Obama and says he won't vote for him. I am an Obama supporter and I don't have a problem with that. I have a big problem with people who post rubbish and act like lunatics. There are a few bloggers, past and present, who support/supported Clinton whom I really like, but I won't mention their names 'cause I don't want to damage their cred!
  
From a moderator
By Michael Link Jun 17th 2008 at 6:42 pm EDT
Things you can do at PartyBuilder:
1. Grow the party (most important)
2. Share ideas
3. Debate

A couple things that the deleted troll can't do:
1. Call fellow Dems "Hitler" (or the GOP, for that matter)
2. Intentionally disrupt the conversation. If they disagree, they can still join the conversation, however.
3. Other inappropriate stuff that's obvious when you see it.

I think this stuff kind of goes without saying. It's a big Internet, and the beautiful thing about it is that everybody can post whatever they like online... and organizations are free to determine what content goes on their own website.

Trolls don't have to agree with us to post here. However, they should be always be respectful and not inflammatory.
Re: From a moderator
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 6:47 pm EDT
it's about time. Thanks! maybe the abuse will stop now and we can build the Party. This is the PARTY BUILDER site, not the tear apart the party site.
THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By Hope4America, CA Delegate At-Large Jun 17th 2008 at 6:47 pm EDT
MICHAEL LINK FOR VICE PRESIDENT!!!!!
Re: THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE PB BLOGS!
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 6:48 pm EDT
Ooray!!!
  
Re: PLEASE COPY MY POST AND CIRCULATE IT!
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 6:56 pm EDT
Dang, what's IN that Kool-Aid?
  
Re: Not juist blogs, but also comments on blog posts.
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jun 17th 2008 at 7:01 pm EDT
The DNC is bankrupt, says grandpa, why do you think they are asking the membership to donate to the Party to help get Obama elected. Grandpa and I get tons of repetitious mail from them and Moveon.org asking grandpa for money, or asking him and grandma to setup bake sales for them in the city of Chula Vista. Grandpa said that he does not know what is going on, but that it is mighty fishy. He had me contact all of our people to ask them about thinking twice when it comes to shelling out to the party, if they are in someway connected to the tomfoolery and censorship of the blogs here on PB. Grandpa is really teed off. I have never seen him like this. He said all the activity pertaining to the elite politicians and the railroading must come to a HALT IF THE PARTY IS TO BE VICTORIOUS IN NOVEMBER.
PEACE lITTLE DINE'
  
Re: From a moderator
By Michael Link Jun 17th 2008 at 7:04 pm EDT
You can post here and not support every single Democrat.

However:
1) Be respectful. Remember, we're here for many different reasons, but the main reason is to grow the party and elect Democrats. Keep that in mind before you hit "publish comment."
2) Understand you'll be called a troll by other users. It's not fun to be called one, if you really aren't -- I haven't checked your posts to see. But with people here who INTENIONALLY disrupt things, people favoring Republicans are often viewed skeptically. If it's wrong, then talk about the Democrats you support, raise money for them, etc and you'll quickly prove them wrong.
3) Other stuff... busy at the moment, but will respond to more of people's concerns tonight.
Re: From a moderator
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:35 pm EDT
Thank you for the clarification Michael hope to see you more on the site
Re: From a moderator/ MR. MICHAEL LINK SIR, AS YOU WELL KNOW I
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jun 17th 2008 at 9:21 pm EDT
AM ONE AMONG THE MANY YOUTH'S ON THIS SITE. I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND HOPE THAT AS AN ENLIGHTENED ADULT AND MODERATOR ON THIS SITE, YOU ANSWER ME HONESTLY.

Did you Mr. Michael Link Sir Delete Jackie McIntosh Or Did you not?

Why is it that when several people here got really Nasty, all calls to the Moderator were ignored?

Were you the moderator here since before the primary was over?

Or are you a new replacement for the one that was not doing his job?

Answer's to my questions are important, because maybe we might have the whole story. It seem's mighty funny that nothing was done before, and now all of a sudden, someone is paying attention.

I hope that you are not of the convenient view as to children and youth's being seen and not heard. IU am and have always been as respectful to all here as I am being to you. We Native American's as a RULE RESPECT SO THAT WE MAY BE RECIPROCALLY RESPECTED. IF YOU WERE NOT TO ANSWER MY RESPECTFUL QUESTIONS, YOU WOULD SURELY HAVE ANSWERED THE DOUBTS IN A NEGATIVE MANNER. I COPY TO FILE ALL I COMMENT AND ALL MY INQUIRIES, I WOULD HOPEW NOT TO BE IGNORED ON THIS INQUIRY MUCH LESS BE DELETED ACCIDENTLY.
mY GRANDPA BELIEVES YOU TO BE AN HONORABLE ADULT, HE SAID HE HAS NO DOUBT YOU WILL BE HONEST ANSWERING. I AWAIT YOUR ANSWER.
Excuse the cap's, was unaware the cap locxk was on.
POeace
Little Dine'
  
Re: The site is having problems
By charctine Jun 17th 2008 at 7:02 pm EDT
He means Jack was causing problems by not smiling and going along with Obama because he's told to. He actually had the cojones to disagree.
  
Re: Liz Labels
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 6:56 pm EDT
maybe because someone is posting like a GOP troll.......just a thought
Re: Liz Labels
By Cookie Jun 17th 2008 at 7:00 pm EDT
Michael just said that was not acceptable. What is wrong with you!
Trolls are fairly easy to spot
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:08 pm EDT
They post the same thing over and over and over again, they rail, they are unreasonable, they attack like angry ants (always). And to me the biggest clue is when they post excerpts from right-wing sites and perpetuate Republican smears.

There are a few conservative Democrats on here whom I initially thought were Republicans, but when they clarified that they were conservative Democrats that helped. Maybe everybody ought to post a brief bio, I don't know...a lot of people think Jackie is a woman and Illinoismel and I are men...
Re: Trolls are fairly easy to spot
By illinoismel Jun 17th 2008 at 7:12 pm EDT
Your sexuality should have nothing what-so-ever to do with posting on this site and if people don't want to share their personal information, they shouldn't be asked to just to appease a few people out here.
Sure - I'm just saying
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:20 pm EDT
people on here make a lot of assumptions. I wasn't inferring one's sexuality motivates them one way or another.
Re: Trolls are fairly easy to spot
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:15 pm EDT
Hollywood.....no I can beat yours. The blacks in here accused me of being white, because I didn't support Obama. Now if that isn't an insult. I don't need a fearless leader. Anyone of color ought to feel degraded by that assumption
That was the point I was trying to make
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:24 pm EDT
Confusion reigns.
Hey, how do you post
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:23 pm EDT
from an "invalid blog/profile"?
Re: Liz Labels
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:09 pm EDT
yeah I want to know too why are the ones that are NON supporters of Obama called trolls...yeah why!!!
From Michael's post
By Lincoln Park Dem Jun 17th 2008 at 7:18 pm EDT
"2) Understand you'll be called a troll by other users. It's not fun to be called one, if you really aren't -- I haven't checked your posts to see. But with people here who INTENIONALLY disrupt things, people favoring Republicans are often viewed skeptically. If it's wrong, then talk about the Democrats you support, raise money for them, etc and you'll quickly prove them wrong."

calling someone a Troll is not off limits.
Re: Call a spade a spade
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 7:29 pm EDT
Fem.....all jokes aside I am right there with you.
  
Re: Trolls are fairly easy to spot
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:43 pm EDT
perhaps it is not your message but the way it is presented words can have the unintended consequence of being misinterpreted as confrontational so especially when blogging I have learned since no body language is present you must assume the person is truly not being confrontational however not everyone takes that tact and the issues get lost in the name calling
I know you're a decent person
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:47 pm EDT
Even though we disagree.
I get deeply offended, too
By Hollywood Jun 17th 2008 at 7:50 pm EDT
Sometimes I let it get to me and I go ballistic. I shouldn't do that, I know.
Re: I get deeply offended, too
By Mr Bill Jun 17th 2008 at 7:52 pm EDT
it's cool Hollywood you would not be human if you didn't go ballistic once and awhile :-) I am sure everyone understands
  
Re: Trolls are fairly easy to spot
By 0000000 Jun 17th 2008 at 9:22 pm EDT
Matty.....no you know what I mean... I was considered a trader for feeling any other way but, the way the majority did...it was like how dare she stand on that side.
  
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