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I was raised by two strong women, my grandmother and mother. I did not come from a broken family. I owe everything I have been able to accomplish in my life from these two women. They did not learn this on their own, as back in "their day", it was still the old adage of barefoot and pregnant. It was a matter of their ancestors being strong willed as well. I was raised and to me, that is one of the most important things that is missing in this society, being raised. I was taught manners, to respect EVERYONE but most of all, I was taught to be me.

I am a little "long in the tooth" as some might say, but I have seen many changes in the lives of women. I was one of the first members of NOW and if my home had not burned, I would still have that necklace that was sent out to everyone. I have seen women degraded (Anita Hill still upsets me terribly), I have seen women take the fall (Republican she may be, but the HP gal), and I still see the crap going on in the workforce. I see people that get fired or laid off every day. There are stories out there that people wouldn't believe and it is sad you cannot tell them or have a link to show.

The saddest part of it all is women are more than 50% of the voting block of the Democratic Party. Women have very little voice it seems. It saddens me we came here tonight to have a serious discussion about some problems and there are great posts, but then some tried at the beginning to ruin it. Don't bother posting to this last comment, it is obvious.

One of these days, the United States of America will have a woman President. It should have been Senator Clinton. When that happens, you will see a balanced budget, people at work and most of all, less war mongering. This is what many people should have really looked at in the election but didn't. The media helped us all into a more difficult world in which we all have to live in.

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Okay I've had enough.
By Mikey Jul 18th 2008 at 11:32 pm EDT
I tried to honestly participate, but making all women's issue about Clinton seems to be the theme here. I did look at this election, and made the choice I felt was best.
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Lincoln Park Dem is fired up and ready to go! Jul 18th 2008 at 11:40 pm EDT
that was the plan all along
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:45 pm EDT
Well, you come here to fight! You said you were boycotting this forum, and again you lied. Trying to destroy the forum and then call it crappy. The only crap in here is you!
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:49 pm EDT
Your a liar! These were not all the issues. This is your game of destroy, and you will be gone from this site.
  
sad
By Someonewhocares Jul 18th 2008 at 11:33 pm EDT
that tonight turned out like it did. Good post
Re: sad
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:46 pm EDT
Yes, I just realized who you are and what you are doing. It wont work anymore.
Re: sad
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:49 pm EDT
Sorry someonewhocares. Posted incorrectly
Re: sad
By Someonewhocares Jul 19th 2008 at 1:27 am EDT
LOL my eyes just bugged out of my head LOL
  
all those good things
By luckeyduckey Jul 18th 2008 at 11:34 pm EDT
will not automatically come with a female president. After all, she will be a politician too and subject to the same struggles as the men. Nothing is ever as pure as you want it to be. Remember to be very afraid of getting what you're wishing for.
Re: all those good things
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:48 pm EDT
ugliness comes out of Obama Supporters.

These issues are not important!
1. Rape
2. Being fired for Breast Feeding
3. Being fired because of age
4. Women being abused.

O supporters make me sick!
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Margaret Thatcher
By Hollywood Jul 19th 2008 at 4:49 am EDT
being a case in point.

She was equally loved and loathed - surprisingly, not for her gender, but for her absolutism and her domestic and foreign policies:

- EU membership and the common currency
- The labor movement (unions) and right to strike
- Privatization of water, gas, electricity, public transportation
- The Poll Tax (instead of property tax based uniquely on the value and location of the property, a uniform per-occupant tax which meant that in some cases, a wealthy person living alone in a five bedroomed house paid less than a family of three or four living in a one bedroom apartment)
- Allowing the US to use UK soil and airspace to attack other countries (Libya, for example)
- Militarism and the war with Argentina
- VAT (a consumption tax which was implemented the day Thatcher came into power, at first 15%, then rose to 17.5%)
= A deterioration in spending on public services such as the National Health Service and education
- Selling off cemetaries in London for construction of residential and office property (the bodies were dug up and relocated outside of London. Some of the cemetaries were sold for as little as A PENNY).
- 10% unemployment (the UB40 song "One In Ten" is about this)
- Apartheid in South Africa (refusal to impose sanctions on the apartheid government)
- Northern Ireland policy - she was completely unyielding and unwilling to negotiate any kind of peace process. Even imposed a ban on the voices of Sinn Fein politicians being broadcast in the UK.
  
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Mikey Jul 18th 2008 at 11:37 pm EDT
We had a successful race forum. Obama was not the main point brought up in the many good posts. Where were you?
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:41 pm EDT
Women's issues
1. Rape
2. Fired because of age
3. Fired because of breast feeding
4. Abuse on women

Give me a break, every time you and Lincoln come on this blog it is a nightmare. Lincoln said she was having her own on your site, why not. Because you wanted to start bull shit.
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Re: Actually, that isn't true, that is, there is no Friday Forum group on the Obama site.
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:52 pm EDT
It is just a game to start trouble. Michael Link needs to remove both of them. This is just a destroy game, and I do not believe they are O supporters, just Republican trolls. This is the behavior of trolls.
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Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Sandi Jul 19th 2008 at 12:08 am EDT
:) Human Race
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Their behavior
By Democrat in Boca Raton, FL Jul 18th 2008 at 11:43 pm EDT
Bad behavior those Obama people
Re: Their behavior
By illinoismel Jul 18th 2008 at 11:49 pm EDT
Just sad a topic that is important was treated with such disrespect.
Re: Their behavior/ Ditto!
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 18th 2008 at 11:59 pm EDT
Ditto!
Re: Their behavior/ Ditto!
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 19th 2008 at 12:00 am EDT
Ditto!
Re: Mel
By MsTawiah Jul 19th 2008 at 12:07 am EDT
HEY!!! I'm an Obama person. Just because people are disagreeing doesn't mean they have to rude, curse, get ignorant... Can't we all just get along?
Re: Mel
By Sandi Jul 19th 2008 at 12:11 am EDT
I truly do not think Lincoln and Mikey are O Supporters, they continue to disrupt and play Republican Troll games. Women's issues are important!
  
Re: You almost had it going on...
By illinoismel Jul 18th 2008 at 11:41 pm EDT
Betty, I hardly ever argue with you but the post baiting on being a drama person at the beginning set the tone for many. Uncalled for and I'm sorry, it ruined it for many.
Re: You almost had it going on.../ I was quiting for the night,
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 18th 2008 at 11:51 pm EDT
But I had to put in one last comment. I was led to believe it was to be a forum about women's issue's that seriously affect women in general, not DISPLAY OF LONG LISTS OF AFRICAN AWOMEN WHO WERE NOTED ACHIEVER'S OVER THE PAST DECADE'S AND WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
nor promo of all that rfelated to afro America.
However I do not blame anyone but myself for having assumed that this was going to be a real forum on what was claimed.

Why can't people maintain it in the general view of the sufferring or women's plight with out making it a competition in racial promotion.
That is the saddest thing of all.
Re: You almost had it going on.../ I was quiting for the night,
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 18th 2008 at 11:51 pm EDT
But I had to put in one last comment. I was led to believe it was to be a forum about women's issue's that seriously affect women in general, not DISPLAY OF LONG LISTS OF AFRICAN AWOMEN WHO WERE NOTED ACHIEVER'S OVER THE PAST DECADE'S AND WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
nor promo of all that rfelated to afro America.
However I do not blame anyone but myself for having assumed that this was going to be a real forum on what was claimed.

Why can't people maintain it in the general view of the sufferring or women's plight with out making it a competition in racial promotion.
That is the saddest thing of all.
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Re: Betty Lou, that was uncalled for.?
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 19th 2008 at 12:10 am EDT
I did not expect it to be a pity party for women, but atleast for there to have been a real forum. Keep looking at the blogs maam, some are still appearing that never had opportunity to show more than a few seconds, before buried.
Re: Betty Lou, that was uncalled for.?
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 19th 2008 at 12:11 am EDT
I did not expect it to be a pity party for women, but atleast for there to have been a real forum. Keep looking at the blogs maam, some are still appearing that never had opportunity to show more than a few seconds, before buried.
  
Re: ,
By illinoismel Jul 18th 2008 at 11:42 pm EDT
Understood, have a good one.
  
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Mikey Jul 18th 2008 at 11:40 pm EDT
Yes I've read many good posts, and I've read many crappy posts from both sides looking for an argument. Tonight was a joke.
Re: Okay I've had enough.
By Sandi Jul 18th 2008 at 11:44 pm EDT
you and lincoln are a joke! Lincoln is a liar, she was boycotting this because she did not want women's issues discussed. So here you and she are starting fights. Fuk you and Lincoln, and I truly hope you reap what you sow. I know you will, I have not lost one bet on that, evil people have evil things happen to them. It is God's way of dealing with evil.
  
Re: You almost had it going on...
By illinoismel Jul 18th 2008 at 11:51 pm EDT
Which is what I told the Light Brigade. Screw their baiting.
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Re: You almost had it going on.../ I was quiting for the night,
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 19th 2008 at 12:07 am EDT
I did one after the other when they finally appeared magically, after being burried, that did not really show. Not much attention paid other than one or two fleeting comment's, it is sad.
  
Re: You almost had it going on.../ I was quiting for the night,
By LITTLE DINE' FOR RECALL ON COLUMBUS DAY Jul 19th 2008 at 12:04 am EDT
I saw that earlier, it through many things out of whack, There as said before were a lot of relevant posts on the issue, many were burried , it seemed like they were kicking them out one per second and so long that other's never had the opportunity to even appear unless you went backward to serac one blog after the other.