I will try not to offend anyone...
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but, as I was getting ready for bed and thinking about all this, it occured to me.
HEY, if you want to consider race, gender, experience, then be fair.
Us women of any color, have been putting up with suppression, servtitude, and predjudice for centuries...if not thousands of years. A hell of a lot longer than any slaves. Of course slavery is inhumane, but we women go through barbaric treatment from our husbands to this day...from men of all cultures....do you see slavery in the US anymore??? NO!
Now, here we have a more than qualified WOMAN Presidential candidate, who we the public have been grooming for years and sending messages that we wish she would run for president, but then for whatever reason, it gets sideswiped by another controversial candidate...a black man
Well, you know what, not only is he not qualified, and has done things that no other person could get away with and still be in the position he is in. Reminds me of a movie where the black guy wanted to get into trouble, but noone would blame him b/c he was black, forgot the name of the movie, but was pretty funny.
I digress. The point is, that we women have been working for this moment for a very long time and it is about to slip right through our fingers. I don't care what man, of any color was running against her that didn't have the qualifications she does, he doesn't deserve being elected. It is our turn, as women, to show what we are made of. And Hilary Clinton is the one to do it.
I do not by any means consider myself a feminist. I love to be treated like a woman and have doors opened for me, make my husband supper, and still maintain the traditional roles between a man and woman that are kind an respectful. There are some things that the sexes are better at than the other...that is a fact. But that is PHYSICALLY...women are intelligent and quick thinkers fully capable of using our brain to run a country. Hell, we are always the ones that are depended on to keep a family together and the house in working order, so if you want to look at it that way, we may actually have an advantage.
Regardless, with this woman (sen. Clinton), at this time, she has more than earned her place in the Oval Office. It's rough working in a predominantly 'good 'ol boy' environment, I know, I work in a traditional male-oriented profession.
I don't want to offend any of you men out there...I love you guys, but hey, give us a chance.
Getting tired...hope I didn't forget to mention anything.
Good night.
HEY, if you want to consider race, gender, experience, then be fair.
Us women of any color, have been putting up with suppression, servtitude, and predjudice for centuries...if not thousands of years. A hell of a lot longer than any slaves. Of course slavery is inhumane, but we women go through barbaric treatment from our husbands to this day...from men of all cultures....do you see slavery in the US anymore??? NO!
Now, here we have a more than qualified WOMAN Presidential candidate, who we the public have been grooming for years and sending messages that we wish she would run for president, but then for whatever reason, it gets sideswiped by another controversial candidate...a black man
Well, you know what, not only is he not qualified, and has done things that no other person could get away with and still be in the position he is in. Reminds me of a movie where the black guy wanted to get into trouble, but noone would blame him b/c he was black, forgot the name of the movie, but was pretty funny.
I digress. The point is, that we women have been working for this moment for a very long time and it is about to slip right through our fingers. I don't care what man, of any color was running against her that didn't have the qualifications she does, he doesn't deserve being elected. It is our turn, as women, to show what we are made of. And Hilary Clinton is the one to do it.
I do not by any means consider myself a feminist. I love to be treated like a woman and have doors opened for me, make my husband supper, and still maintain the traditional roles between a man and woman that are kind an respectful. There are some things that the sexes are better at than the other...that is a fact. But that is PHYSICALLY...women are intelligent and quick thinkers fully capable of using our brain to run a country. Hell, we are always the ones that are depended on to keep a family together and the house in working order, so if you want to look at it that way, we may actually have an advantage.
Regardless, with this woman (sen. Clinton), at this time, she has more than earned her place in the Oval Office. It's rough working in a predominantly 'good 'ol boy' environment, I know, I work in a traditional male-oriented profession.
I don't want to offend any of you men out there...I love you guys, but hey, give us a chance.
Getting tired...hope I didn't forget to mention anything.
Good night.
My vote is not a women vote...... if it were Nanci Pelosi, I would not vote for her.
And remember that Bill is the ultimate 'Good ol Boy' out there, maybe not by his political stances, but by his actions thoughout his lifetime. There are several woman out there that are as equally quallified as Hillary. I'm not trying to attack nor offend either, but you said your peace about Barack, so to be fair I've said mine. I happen to have a lot of respect for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: anyone who can stand up to King Bush, the most arrogant, bullying President in history, on a daily basis has my respect. Remember I was one of the Republican swing voters that helped put her there in 2006. I felt she would have been great on day one, if Democrats could have had Bush and Cheney Impeached, or tried for war crimes. I know a lot of you don't like her because she's not 100% behind Hillary, but Hillary burned some bridges with her as well. Had those 2 been on the same side from the start, Hillary may have had an easy stroll back to the white house. Some women don't like to share their kitchens (kidding). I know you're all thinking that's a sexist remark, but it's fair game after Hillary's 'if you can't stand the heat' remarks (which she was sorta kidding as well).
Yeah, Bill might be a good 'ol boy, but that just proves even more how strong Hilary is.
Nor was I implying that there are not many other women out there that are qualified to run this country....it's just that at the moment, Sen. Clinton happens to be the only woman running for President.
Lastly, I will agree with you that at times, women can be their own worst enemies. However, I think at the level Pelosi and Clinton are at, it is not an issue and well under control otherwise neither would be where they are now.
How does Hillary staying with Bill prove strength?
From the perspective of many, she stayed with him because she needed his name in her own quest for the Presidency. I'm trying to be open-minded here, so if you could educate me.
My #1 priority is no McCain in 2009. My 2nd priority is to my candidate of choice, Obama, but my 1st trumps that at all costs, even if it means...urgh...Hillary. As a former life long Republican, I have to overcome a lot of resentment towards the Clintons, for your information as to where I'm coming from.
But anyway, no one has won the Democratic nomination, yet, but when that happens we need to support each other. If Democrats continue to attack Democrats, then America as we know it will fail under John McCain. I'm not a big fan of the two party system, but right now we need the Democrat nominee in the white house as well as holding the congressional majority.
Your analogy of women and their kitchens is right on. The relationship between women is so entirely different than it is between men, especially when it is two strong women such as Pelosi and Hillary.
I on the other hand work with many powerful women in engineering, hydrogeologist, attorney generals,managers, deputy commissioners, etc. at the state level.
We do not bicker and cry over who is the boss of the kitchen.
Because I am a woman I should vote for Hillary? NOT.
I should vote for her because Hillary has wanted back in the White House since before she and Bill left it? NOT.
This is my favorite paragraph of your entire post....
"Now, here we have a more than qualified WOMAN Presidential candidate, who we the public have been grooming for years and sending messages that we wish she would run for president, but then for whatever reason, it gets sideswiped by another controversial candidate...a black man"
Here you are saying Hillary is a controversial candidate and that Obama is controversial because he is a "black man". Would you have used the words "white man" if Obama were white? No, you would have said "man". I'm not sure if you realize it but that statement makes you sound like a bigot.
When I said I don't mean to offend, I meant men in general. And BTW, the men that responded said they were not offended.
Also, I did not say that b/c Clinton is a woman that is why I am voting for her. AND it is not she that started the campaigning for the WH, if you can remember, people have been expressing that wish long b4 she ever mentioned it.
Obviously a white man running for president is not controversial for the most part....since duh, that is all that has ever been the President of the US.
Your lack of reading comprehension and logic is astounding. Is it that baffling for you to realize what an anomoly this is? Or are you just so blinded that a black man is a contender that you will twist facts and ignore the obvious? You know how long it has taken women to get a foot in the door n the world of politics, women started out from the bottom up....and you for some reason don't think it is strange that a black man jumps right up to attempting to run for the Presidential election? Everyone in this world has to take one step at a time to get to the top....why should it be any different for him??? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, they don't have to go by the rules as the rest of us do b/c they were slaves....which none of my ancestors had anything to do with. So, how long does the handicap have to be given to them b4 they can fend for themselves like everyone else?
Ha Ha, wasn't 'Affirmative Action' a Democrat (and a Clinton) philosophy, now look where we are at. Hey, I competed for a college slot under 'Affirmative Action' and the Clintons. Maybe they set that up on purpose in case of this very situation, to divide the party.
I'm not laughing at you, just the irony.
Please don't get mad.
you are one of those people that will try to twist and manipulate people and you think you are so smart and everyone is so stupid, maybe u can con desperate people that don't know the facts and try to bully them with the PC crap, but u r the stupid one that cannot even follow a point.
Maybe I am wrong, but from I can tell from your posts, you are uneducated, uninformed, and have never been out of your comfort zone let alone visited another country overseas. If the best you can say is I have no clue, at your age, that just proves to me that you have no real arguement behind your beliefs except that that is what you think and want to believe.
Bush won't even send a delegation to sit at the table with them. I do have to admire Bill Clinton for setting up a trip for Albright to meet with Kim Jong Il.
When I was on a train in Europe (late '90's), I sat in a compartment with a kid about my age who turned out to be from Bosnia, he lost a brother during Clinton's bombings, and I apologized and said, "Hey not all Americans are getting blown in the oval office, while wagging the dog and creating wars to distract from his scandals." We laughed and had a long conversation, luckily he spoke English well.
So it's not just picking the next Presisdent, but choosing someone who can restore America as a beacon of hope to the rest of the world. If America falls short, the rest of the world will decline as well.
I'm not saying you've said this, but I haven't appreciated some HRC supporters of saying we're following Barack blindly (happens in every pro-Obama blog). I believe he a unique vision for this country, and it took a great deal of thought and conflict to switch to support him. The blind followers are supporting John McCain simply because he's a Republican, or pro-life, and discount or ignore all the negatives of another 4 Republican years.
I have continuously stated that Clinton's argument of experience as an unconventionally active First Lady wasn't a good strategy. It only highlighted her own weakness of a padded resume and connected her to the contentious past; not change. This election is about CHANGE!
If this election was based on experience McCain would win against both our candidates, but it is about CHANGE.
You offend men, women and logic!
Yeah, just keep up the whining about being AA...i have met and seen plenty of very successful AA's who got off the pity party a long time ago and have actually made something of themselves.
As far as experience and change goes, McCain can offer both of that. However, Clinton has the change that I am looking for from a qualified woman candidate.
You are lying to yourself if you think that your aspirations are anything but defying logic. Logic is calculating the potential and coming to a realistic outcome...which is the complete opposite of how you and those like you think.
Is a Former First Lady more qualified than someone with McCain's background? Do we really want to use that as our measuring stick? Was Kennedy qualified? If being a First Lady makes for a qualification, then none of our Presidents have been qualified.
Please check, who has held an elected office for a longer amount of time?
Who has spent more time working for the poor for the workers?
Who would be more likely to support women? Not the person who was on the board of Wal Mart, a company known for discriminating against female workers and not promoting them into management. Wal Mart is also notorious for not allowing unions. How many unions support Hillary?
Hillary already took on the issue of health care. How did she do? Please tell us why we do not already have a better health care system?
I would love to see a woman be president, but I will not vote for someone just because she is a woman.
There is no need for this if you actually pay attention to policies and how people expressed their values in their actions while in office.
See, Hillary has not really supported that many bills while in office, which is too bad. McCain has supported some really stellar bills. His plan for immigration used to be one example. Rather than trying to defame him for his war service, which is just silly, tear him down for being such a flip-flopper. He is now so far gone to the right that he is no longer supporting his own policies. Really,he has twice said he could not support Bush's tax cuts, and now he supports them. He helped write a bill against torture, HE WAS TORTURED! And yet, now he is okay with it and the rest of the Bush doctrine.
You can read more about just how much he has changed in this article, Link
Please, be sensible. Do not reach into the dirty tricks hat to try to play up Clinton's service by bashing McCain's when there is so much legitimate stuff to talk about.
Instead, try to explain to me how helpful her time on the board of Wal Mart was for women and workers
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