My suggestion to everyone.....
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There was nothing wrong with her terminology if that's really the way she feels.

This has to stop, but we all have to work together to make it stop.

Education, education, education. Learn how to deal with adversity, controversy and objectivity, or all that will be left is monotony.

Let's allow real people with real opinions in the real world, it's better than filtered opinions in a sheltered world. Let's work together to be diplomatic.

We simply cannot continue to be this thick headed as to completely lose the ability to reason with those that differ in perspective. As you must know I am not referring to obvious slander posts, and hers was not one, hers was a legitimate concern, she was treated rudely, and dismissed with censorship.

This cannot be how democrats have discourse.

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agree
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT)
Seems this whole blog has turned into if someone does not like you they can follow you around and report you everytime you do anything. Sad people say they want to talk issues and unit yet they only want conversation about what they like or know. What makes it even more depressing is that that seems to be supported and allowed.
Re: agree
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 2:41 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:41 pm EDT)
please. Many people have said they are reporting. From every group on here , they all report. We now this.
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 2:49 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:49 pm EDT)
B.S. UN-Patriot 08.
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 2:59 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:59 pm EDT)
YOU are reaping what YOU sowed. Stop attacking "groups" here.
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:06 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:06 pm EDT)
the what brigade? They are not a PB group
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:15 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:15 pm EDT)
maybe people got themselves banned. Maybe there was a Light Brigade PB group but there isn't one now.

What ever happened to personal responsibilty...taking responsibilty for ones own actions? WHy do people have to balme others for their own actions?

You know what...if you commit a crime, it's still a crime if no one reports.

Whatever...this is a waste of time
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:33 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:33 pm EDT)
now that is one crazy comment. The people that were banned were banned for a reason...their blogs and posts. Reported or not, THEY wrote it. THEY are solely responsible,
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:02 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:02 pm EDT)
Why don't you go talk to your Light Brigade friends who admit they reported Ben and Shopman, but now say "Oh, we didn't mean for them to get banned." Right. You want to talk about rude and unfair?!!!
Re: LPD
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 3:05 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:05 pm EDT)
too bad I am part of the light brigade and did not report them so could you try not to broad when throwing the insults?
Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:06 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:06 pm EDT)
there is no PB light brigade
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Re: LPD
By charctine Aug 21st 2008 at 7:34 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 7:34 pm EDT)
I was also a member of the Light Brigade, and I have never caused anyone to be banned. In fact, if I were to report anyone, it would not have been anyone banned so far....
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:12 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:12 pm EDT)
You obviously know *nothing* about me, my blogs or what I have been doing since your so-called "group purge" began.

Damn..where's my flyswatter.
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:17 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:17 pm EDT)
B.S. I was right there when TexAnne was unfairly banned. And I was not quiet about it. Unfortunately, she and others have taken their anger off the deep end and dug their hole further.
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Re: LPD
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:28 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:28 pm EDT)
Apparently, my role today is knat swatter. But tomorrow is another day...
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:00 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:00 pm EDT)
who said 'I am watching you'? Geeezz.....don't inflate your ego. I don't have the time or desire to 'watch you'
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:07 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:07 pm EDT)
hahahahaha

now you know what I do, have you wired my home?

You assume. And that's all
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:10 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:10 pm EDT)
guess you're not 'here' enough to know when I am 'here'
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Re: LPD
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:17 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:17 pm EDT)
I am pretty bright.
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Here's another thing we can do....
By Vidya Aug 21st 2008 at 2:41 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:41 pm EDT)
United we stand divided we fall.

Link
  
that's a solution
By Liz Aug 21st 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:27 pm EDT)
but whose terminology are you referring to?
Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Vidya Aug 21st 2008 at 2:40 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:40 pm EDT)
I appreciate you objective perspective on the matter.



"DNC Jail" Big whoop, right?

Really, did we need to delete that, are we that afraid.

LOL
Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 2:49 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:49 pm EDT)
Perhaps the moderator will discover soon that it would take less time to write a short PM to the "offending" person and give warning or explanation than to read all our complaints to him. :)
Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:03 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:03 pm EDT)
you would think people would get the hint and not have to have blogs, groups and people deleted over and over again and just follow the ground rules that matt laid out. But no...now they need rules 'posted' like a dayum schoolyard. If rules are posted then they will figure out a way to wiggle out of those.

Go figure.
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Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 3:07 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:07 pm EDT)
LMAO really???? So tell me how many pm's do you send him a day? I bet 5 on a good day.
Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:08 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:08 pm EDT)
PM's? I can honestly say I have never sent matt one PM. Not one.
Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 3:16 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:16 pm EDT)
ok i would say you complain at least 5 times a day
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Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:21 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:21 pm EDT)
Well, thank God, anyone but McCain is using the red telepone.
Re: Yes, thanks for chiming in Liz.
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:22 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:22 pm EDT)
da 'bat phone'
  
Re: agree
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 2:48 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 2:48 pm EDT)
Say that to the Light Brigade members who had Ben and Shopman banned.
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Re: agree
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:03 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:03 pm EDT)
From your lips to the Light Brigade's ears.
Remember
By Vidya Aug 21st 2008 at 3:05 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:05 pm EDT)
What goes around comes around.

It was wrong to begin with.

Period.
Re: Remember
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:11 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:11 pm EDT)
Which is why so many of us in ALL groups have been pleading to the moderator to set up a code of conduct and a warning/review system to communicated better with us bloggers.
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Re: Remember
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:15 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:15 pm EDT)
SWAT
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Re: Remember
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:22 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:22 pm EDT)
Well....yes. PMS and a flyswatter are good companions.
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I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Hollywood Aug 21st 2008 at 3:23 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:23 pm EDT)
And limited censorship. If I was running this site I would delete posts which include:

- Name-calling, especially of the profane kind
- Slurs against people on the basis of race, gender, religion and sexual preference
- Political smears on Democrats (which are mainly derived from right-wing and official GOP sources)
- Libel
- Disseminating private information (I have been guilty of this myself in the past but have done a lot of research on the subject and am now hyper-conscious of the inherent danger of this and now decry this practice absolutely. I am not worried about my fellow Dems who blog on this site but of professional cons and trolls who engage in everything from identity theft to criminal harrassment).
Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:27 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:27 pm EDT)
Thanks, Hollywood, for the words of reason. Freedom of speech rights on private websites does not include saying *anything* anyone feels like.
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Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 3:48 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:48 pm EDT)
Yes...and the point is that people from both "groups" want these clarifications. We should be united on this issue and try to communicate with the moderator in a reasonable, respectful manner instead of fighting and pointing the finger at each other like children. AND, we have to realize that moderating a blog site is legal and ethical...it is not blind censorship.
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Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 6:51 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 6:51 pm EDT)
I agree but can I ask you blue.... Why not ask lpd that while she is complaining to higher up she can also ask for that clarification? LPD herself has made it clear if she does not like something it gets taken care of so as her friends why arn't you guys pushing her to get that done too?

I am willing to work with any and all dems
I do not agree with many here but that does not mean we can not work towards fixing other things. Why is that so bad? For anyone who brings up bashing the nom I challenge you to provide a link where I have BASHED Obama since the end of the Primary's. Keep in mind stating objections or asking questions is not bashing. So please do that if you can't that's fine but then nobody has a exscuse to not work with me.
Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Blueberry Aug 21st 2008 at 6:55 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 6:55 pm EDT)
1) We have and she has.

2) It really shocked me that you would start a PUMA group here on PB. PUMA and many of its members are well-known for lies and smears against our Democratic nominee.
Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Someonewhocares Aug 22nd 2008 at 1:31 am EDT (Updated Aug 22nd 2008 at 1:31 am EDT)
Blue I started that group a long time ago. That group I started was not to promote any Republican.... if I was so pro republican I promise I would not care so much about what is going on here.
Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Lincoln Park Dem Aug 21st 2008 at 3:29 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:29 pm EDT)
thanks Hollywood.
Re: I am a firm believer in rebuttal
By Wendy ~Democrat For Life Aug 21st 2008 at 3:41 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 3:41 pm EDT)
HERE, HERE Hollywood !! Excellent post!
Hollywood, let's not belabor the obvious.
By Vidya Aug 23rd 2008 at 3:51 pm EDT (Updated Aug 23rd 2008 at 3:51 pm EDT)
None of what you list above is what this post refers to.

It seems communication here is increasing difficult, at least getting this point across is...lol
  
Re: agree
By Someonewhocares Aug 21st 2008 at 6:46 pm EDT (Updated Aug 21st 2008 at 6:46 pm EDT)
Agreed.....
How can anyone call for unity and then kick people out. ALL of us Agree on most of the things that make us ALL dems.... but because we do not agree on some things that makes us less valuable to our own party. How does that even make sense? Change remember? Government working for the people not the other way around.....