12 Differences between Obama and Clinton
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One and the Other........
I have followed Clinton's speeches, most given in the dead of the night. Obama's strong points have been
copied from Clinton's and modified by comparing to
Clinton.
They are alike because most of his plans are hers.
They do have strong points that are different. I list at least 12 below.
Her policy on immigration and illegal traffic coming into our country from our Western States were also liked by these states..... she won them all.. CA, AR,NV, NM, OK, TX.... you don't know what they are do you?
Well Obama doesn't know either. We will keep it like that. On less thing to copy.
1. Her health care plan, can work, she has been working on this for 20 years.... he does not have a clue on how to even get started. Her passion for the poor (who now turn their back on her) has a proven history of more than 20 years. Universal Health Care for All Americans.
2. She wants to try to save Social Security without his tax increase by fiscal responsibility. Yes, your employment tax with Obama is going up.
3. Of the three Senators she is the most environmentally friendly... She is the only on that does not want to increase nuclear energy expansion. She has voted "no" 7 times on this... McCain and Obama "yes".
You do know it take 25,000 years for the radio active waste products to decompose to be safe. Asking you what kind of container is needed for that? The whole state of Nevada?
4. She knows NAFTA is necessary but she also knows it is broken, abused, damaged and injured.
Unfair taxes.... and unfair gift taxes returned by Corp as tax holidays.. from Corp. off shore.
5. The economy to defend our country at War is providing jobs out of our Country. 70% of Boeing parts are not made at home. She says this is not right.
6. She has 30 retired Generals standing with her and she will bring troops home responsibly and will honor those that have served our country doing what was asked of them.
7. She has battled for the National Guard and Vets coming home with needed health care and it is not just the Vets, but their families as well.
8. She will get rid of No Child Left Behind
9. She will put Americans to work doing what is needed and what is best for our countries future.
Green Jobs, rebuilding our infrastructure that is more than 50 years old. She would not have repaired the levees in New Orleans, she would have rebuilt them.
10. On that note she will fill her cabinet with qualified people not college friends and peopled owed..... Does Richardson come to mine? Even bipartisan, Bill had some Republicans in his administration..... Greenspan Federal reserve was a Rep and so was the Secretary of Defense.
People of QUALITY...... compare Obama's friends and associates... a problem?
11. NOW THE BIG ONE the economy....... The Bill Clinton years took this country out of debt and left with a surplus.... even as a spectator of this she has a record of knowing it can be done.
AND.... Balanced budget for the first time in 30 years and has not happened since with Bush, even taking the War out of it.
12. Barack Obama has indicated he might support raising the capital gains tax
from 15% to 28%. (this will have a major effect on middle class)
Hillary Clinton has said she would consider raising the capital gains tax
from 15% to 20%.
Getting real with all of this..... Obama can see the problems, we can see the problems.
he tells us he understands the problems and knows we want to change all these problems.
But he does not know HOW they became problems, WHEN they became problems or
WHAT is necessary to fix these problems.
Personally, I think the turning point of his decline is not the Rev.Wright....
But his fear to debate..... and the 21 count is not enough excuse to hind behind.
He has pass up the request of 4 states.
Washington, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and now Oregon.
Fear to debate = weakness
Fear to debate = inability to work under pressure
Fear to debate = inexperience
Fear to debate = loss of the Nomination
IF HE CAN NOT DEBATE AND ANSWER ALL OF THIS...... he is not qualified to be our President. He should debate... or step done.
I have followed Clinton's speeches, most given in the dead of the night. Obama's strong points have been
copied from Clinton's and modified by comparing to
Clinton.
They are alike because most of his plans are hers.
They do have strong points that are different. I list at least 12 below.
Her policy on immigration and illegal traffic coming into our country from our Western States were also liked by these states..... she won them all.. CA, AR,NV, NM, OK, TX.... you don't know what they are do you?
Well Obama doesn't know either. We will keep it like that. On less thing to copy.
1. Her health care plan, can work, she has been working on this for 20 years.... he does not have a clue on how to even get started. Her passion for the poor (who now turn their back on her) has a proven history of more than 20 years. Universal Health Care for All Americans.
2. She wants to try to save Social Security without his tax increase by fiscal responsibility. Yes, your employment tax with Obama is going up.
3. Of the three Senators she is the most environmentally friendly... She is the only on that does not want to increase nuclear energy expansion. She has voted "no" 7 times on this... McCain and Obama "yes".
You do know it take 25,000 years for the radio active waste products to decompose to be safe. Asking you what kind of container is needed for that? The whole state of Nevada?
4. She knows NAFTA is necessary but she also knows it is broken, abused, damaged and injured.
Unfair taxes.... and unfair gift taxes returned by Corp as tax holidays.. from Corp. off shore.
5. The economy to defend our country at War is providing jobs out of our Country. 70% of Boeing parts are not made at home. She says this is not right.
6. She has 30 retired Generals standing with her and she will bring troops home responsibly and will honor those that have served our country doing what was asked of them.
7. She has battled for the National Guard and Vets coming home with needed health care and it is not just the Vets, but their families as well.
8. She will get rid of No Child Left Behind
9. She will put Americans to work doing what is needed and what is best for our countries future.
Green Jobs, rebuilding our infrastructure that is more than 50 years old. She would not have repaired the levees in New Orleans, she would have rebuilt them.
10. On that note she will fill her cabinet with qualified people not college friends and peopled owed..... Does Richardson come to mine? Even bipartisan, Bill had some Republicans in his administration..... Greenspan Federal reserve was a Rep and so was the Secretary of Defense.
People of QUALITY...... compare Obama's friends and associates... a problem?
11. NOW THE BIG ONE the economy....... The Bill Clinton years took this country out of debt and left with a surplus.... even as a spectator of this she has a record of knowing it can be done.
AND.... Balanced budget for the first time in 30 years and has not happened since with Bush, even taking the War out of it.
12. Barack Obama has indicated he might support raising the capital gains tax
from 15% to 28%. (this will have a major effect on middle class)
Hillary Clinton has said she would consider raising the capital gains tax
from 15% to 20%.
Getting real with all of this..... Obama can see the problems, we can see the problems.
he tells us he understands the problems and knows we want to change all these problems.
But he does not know HOW they became problems, WHEN they became problems or
WHAT is necessary to fix these problems.
Personally, I think the turning point of his decline is not the Rev.Wright....
But his fear to debate..... and the 21 count is not enough excuse to hind behind.
He has pass up the request of 4 states.
Washington, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and now Oregon.
Fear to debate = weakness
Fear to debate = inability to work under pressure
Fear to debate = inexperience
Fear to debate = loss of the Nomination
IF HE CAN NOT DEBATE AND ANSWER ALL OF THIS...... he is not qualified to be our President. He should debate... or step done.
The American Federation of Teachers support her.
Her plans were first and most comprehensive.
I quoted her before but it really says it all.
"Every chance she gets ...
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By Woman at Large Yesterday at 11:34Â pm EDT
she proves she's nothing but class. You may point out she's losing among her own party, but her loss would be nothing compared to the way the Democratic "winner" will be trouEnced in November. Why do we keep reading that anyone who wins the Dem nomination will be president? That might have been true with a universally acceptable candidate like Hillary, but it won't happen with a candidate who's unappealing to half his own party, as well as the conservative WASPS who make up the Republican party.
With truth comes the good and the not so good.
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By Vidya Today at 12:23Â am EDT
It is really hard to resist the temptation to be honest.
Woman at large has made the point, we all fear, which will be our own undoing."
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too bad that Clinton didn't follow Obama's example when she voted with the Republicans in September of 2006 against an amendment that would have limited the use of Cluster bombs.
too bad Clinton didn't follow Obama's example when she chose her campaign manager.
She stood her ground and said as president she tells the military to start bringing them home in 60 and that is what the military will do. He also signed Bush's stupid oil bill which included drilling in Alaska, she did not.
It didn't take me long, in my newspaper career, to realize the travesty of justice that takes place when the smarter lawyer, not the more just argument, wins. A smart lawyer I once knew said it was because "you don't get justice in a court of law; you get law." And here we are making decisions based on how strong the candidate's committee is, how enthusiastic they are, who's speaking for them, who's managing their campaign. Hillary Clinton speaks strongly and clearly for herself, and what she says and does qualifies her to be the Dem nominee. The trappings don't matter. The number of open-mouthed admirers doesn't matter. The charm doesn't matter. ONLY THE CANDIDATE MATTERS. And where does that leave Senator Obama, with his shady financial dealings, his shady friends, his empty rhetoric? And oh yes, his willingness to meet unconditionally with those who don't want to hear what we have to say, they only want to see us eradicated!
Old hat and old news. Hot air that only applies to baloons! Something like most of your posts!
Why not add the fact that he too vote to extend the war now that he is in the senate! Gee, I'm against the war and now I'm for it! Flipiddy Flop! Copy all of Clintons programs and modify them some and say they are his ideas. Wow this guy is really something!
that has been explained so many times... again. you look like an idiot.
Obama gave his anti-Iraq war speech in 2004. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. And before he gave his 'glorious' speech, he canvased the Democratic leadership to see which way the wind was blowing. He was not in the Senate. He did not have to make a decision about voting for or against any action to be taken. He didn't see what otherSenators saw in the way of evidence, trumped up or not.Even Colin Powell was taken in by the evidence,not realizing that it was false.
So, come on and be real for once all of you who think Obama is the only choice for America. Most of his ideas have come from Hillary Clinton. He can't debate because he can't think on his feet and doesn't have the fund of knowledge that Hillary has because he has no real experience.
What exactly has he done besides work in the community and be the head of the Harvard Law Review? What real experience has he had? What laws has he been able to get passed in the Senate? On what bills has he been able to engage the Republicans in to get passed. When has he ever crossed to aisle for the good of the nation?
Someone please answer these questions for me and maybe I might be swayed to consider voting for Obama.
As far as I am concerned, I am voting for Hillary in November by writing her name on the ballot. I voted in Pennsylvania with other members of the Democratic Party. No Independents or Republicans were allowed to interfere. Who will representing the real Democratic Party ar the Narional Convention? Certainly not Democrats!
Independent to Nadar.
As a side note, Obama, not Clinton, won Texas.
If this were only Primaries with poll voting she would be the winner.
If this were winner take all as with the Republicans she would be the winner.
The caucuses have been an asset to Obama and a problem with Clinton.
We have all listed off reasons caucuses are poor to a mass majority of Americans, work, child care issues, transportation, elderly, handicapped, disabled, but of course.....
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the intimidation to the ones that show up..This has been a major problem. Caucuses can be very scary.. retaliation possibilities....
Caucuses are not private.... the count is not private.
We have had them posted right on this blog as well.
This is happening to many AA that show up that would otherwise vote for Hillary.
But, I volunteered for Clinton to make calls to Texas and on the day of the Primary the calls were to remind them to caucus. The polls closed at 7:00 and the caucus began at the same time.
Some of the caucuses were held at different locations than the primary location.
We were to advise them of that and help them locate the site.
Well, long story of it....... many of the callers were told to be at the caucuses at 7:15....
You know what happened to people arriving late, they were not allowed in once the rooms were filled. How they handled that, is unknown to me.
All I know is that many of the Clinton supporters were unable to return, due to work, child care issues, elderly, disabled and transportation problems.
Caucuses do not reflect the people.... too bad in a state that already has a primary (70% count) to also have a caucus (30% count) why need both.
Other states, I am sure it is a matter of economics since it is cheaper and in the past it didn't matter..... the Nomination was long settled before getting to their state.
This one does take in all the states...... well, except Michigan and Florida.... they don't count.
EXCEPT IN THE EYES OF THE SUPER DELEGATES.
Clinton supporters were NOT The only ones who had difficulty making it to the caucuses.
Speaking from personal experience about the caucuses in Texas, there was such a huge turnout, the state party was in no way prepared. People who ran the caucus were ridiculous. They had no clue what the rules were or how to run it. The one in my precinct had no clue that we were supposed to select delegates for the county convention. She had us sign the paper for our vote only. She said they would call us if we were chosen as delegates. Well, that's not the way it works. And yes, I complained. There were a great many precincts with similar problems, because no one knew what the heck they were doing.
Read it again......why....INTIMIDATION IS THE BIG ONE...... THEY ARE NOT PRIVATE.....
Just to let you know, though I don't condone intimidation by Obama supporters, it works both ways. I live in a very rural area, and there were 13 people at our precinct caucus. My husband and I were the only ones for Obama. All but my husband and 1 other were women. Think we didn't feel some intimidation? Oh yeah... it was there. So don't make it sound like it was all Obama supporters doing the intimidating, because it WASN'T.
this damn party needs better loyalists