A quick note
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I think I'm going to start deleting double-posts when I see them. While I understand that sometimes your posts get pushed off the main blog page too quickly, the double-posts only make things worse by causing one more post to go off the page.
However, I'd like your thoughts on this, first.
UPDATE: One issue is that people sometimes write great posts that people not online at the time might miss. So maybe the solution is for us to start a "Diary Rescue" that takes good posts and adds them all into one post, which would hopefully get recommended.
It'd need to be not just by people who support one candidate, so it would have stuff in favor of both of them. Otherwise, we'll have competing diary rescues which diminishes it.
Thoughts on that? Then we wouldn't have as great a need for duplicate posts as we currently have.
However, I'd like your thoughts on this, first.
UPDATE: One issue is that people sometimes write great posts that people not online at the time might miss. So maybe the solution is for us to start a "Diary Rescue" that takes good posts and adds them all into one post, which would hopefully get recommended.
It'd need to be not just by people who support one candidate, so it would have stuff in favor of both of them. Otherwise, we'll have competing diary rescues which diminishes it.
Thoughts on that? Then we wouldn't have as great a need for duplicate posts as we currently have.

This is just a question of enforcement, then.
Just a thought.
DOUBLE POSTS OR IDEAS YOU DON'T LIKE?
DELETE THISD.....
:)
;p
Clinton , Obama , Clinton , Obama ?
annie = discernible useful information
verses
FOS = hate spewed crap
Where is the love
Where IS the love?
Delete me altogether, it would make alot of people happy and I could walk away from this party free and clear.
I'm not just out to protect my speech.
Okay next. Multi-posting is a hassle, and definitely contributes to the problem of posts getting pushed off the page and into oblivion. Yes, enforcing that rule is a great idea.
Here's another point. Sometimes you see a super long comment written on a post, and then posted as its own individual post, and then spammed on several other posts as a comment... any chance we could deal with that?
I think the forum suggestion is a great one. Then if you're me, you can read all the environment posts and skip all the candidate stuff. Or whatever floats your boat.
Also the star ratings should not allow the poster to give themselves a boost!
Link
and then too lazy to go to what is on the next page at
Link
etc.
Yes, please let us know and please do delete all duplicate postings found.
Mike W
Tulsa+
Who tries to at least glance at all posts
Except that does defeat the purpose of exposing ourselves to what we would ordinarily not write ourselves... and while redundancy is a problem, it seems to occur mainly with those who are new to the site... How about a welcome wagon message to each new member... multiple posting limits, reposting time limits, civil behavior towards other bloggers...etc... so that it is an invitation to elevate standards rather than a limitation of options.
There are exceptions to every rule... am a Springsteen lover... and can easily see why there may have been a few blogs, expressing similar excitement, am cool with that... I do feel, however, that it would be helpful to stick to the topic of candidates and issues, good or bad, without taking criticisms of the candidates personally. That seems to be the most challenging aspect, as well as distracting and nonproductive.
Daily reposts are a painful waste of our time.
Hourly reposts are an insult.
Spamming does not equal freedom of speach to me.
(1) I can't promote candidate blog posts, given that I have to be completely neutral. There's no way to do this without having at least one person concerned that there's bias to what I'd select.
(2) I think a team of people would be better, anyway. Plus, in the comments of the post, everybody could post stuff they wrote that they like. So it's not just about what gets in the main part of the post, but also a place for everybody to share stuff they want others to read.
Somebody should start a post just about this idea and organize it.
If we can keep from bickering long enough to do it.
Who is going to volunteer?
This is a big deal. It ties into whether PartyBuilder is helping or hurting the party. Right now, if I had to guess it is now the tool of the forces that are wrecking party unity. And I raise my hand to admit I have written a few flame posts too.
This side bar may be great for getting people talking to each other, but it is mostly a flame war, running thread where notes have little meaning after they scroll off the page.
I care little about crabby notes about personality politics and that's what dominates, but I am forced to defend simply because it is headlining. Stuff getting the eyeballs amplifies the politically damaging messages, so I really have no choice.
I would suggest javascript hideable lists (eg wikipedia's list of presidents at the end of an article on a president Link ). Notes appear by default in the "General" list of Highest rated posts. Notes may appear in the other lists IF and ONLY IF they have been accepted for inclusion in a Group blog on that issue area.
Perhaps a compressed list of Issues categories taken from the categories for groups. So expandible lists would appear in the sidebar where Highest rated Posts now appears:
* General
* Social Justice
* Health & Education
* Environment & Energy
* Economic Policy
* Foreign Policy / Security
* Government Reform
When the expandible list expands, all others collapse, and the 5 highest posts in that list appear. By default, one of the lists is randomly expanded, as part of a fresh look, don't bury the content strategy.
I am certainly willing to put up links to my faves every day or so.
If you decide on a moderator.... let me suggest a group or committee.... that way if one person is unavailable, another can post the faves.
BTW, any news on my problem?
peace to you,
marsha
Your sections could be:
In its current form, it is difficult to read everyting daily and you do miss good stuff.
Latest News
Regional Events
Clintonites
Obamaites
Economy
Environment
Foreign Affairs
Millitary
Supreme Court
Cartoons
Blow off Steam
Seriously, this site has completely lost its focus. It was to be about building the Democratic Party and has, unfortunately, become a place for harping against someone else's candidate.
No party building going on.
It needs more moderation and more clearly established rules. Really, there are no rules (at least none that I can find). It's officially sanctioned chaos.
I do get bothered, though, that some posts I'm actually looking for disappeared before I could get back to the blog to see it for myself.
I am not bothered that real NEW posts bump others off. It's the direct copy/pastes that bother me.
I don't understand your priorities. You can't simply bury your head in the sand and pretend the abuse and ugliness doesn't exist here. If you aren't aware of it then you don't spend enough time here, and shame on you, Michael Link! As the owner/moderator (if it isn't you, then name who is), you need to articulate, enforce acknowledgment and agreement of same, and enforce a set of rules and guidelines, and human behavior on this site. I've recommended this to you before, and while you agreed you wanted to think about the right approach.
Instead of you contributing to helping maintain, or steer the tone back to building our party, your inactions and unwillingness to help, are contributing to this blog site becoming as ineffective as our party is headed, a mere six months from the general election.
Michael, get real, and focus on the right priorities. Help stop us from bashing each other, baiting each other, espousing hateful and degrading remarks against each other in the name of one of the two candidates. Moderate this blog site, as a good moderator/owner would. Add to the blogs in a way that contributes and stimulates productive debate and sharing of thoughts, channeled clearly to a common goal of winning on November 4.
Just kidding. I just wanted to see if everyone read all the way to the bottom of the comments.
Therefore, Michael, in the interest of having some very good stuff be brought forth, and saving some valuable space (yes, even electrons in cyberspace take up room), Please do some cleanup work. A very good idea, indeed.
Think {CYBERPOLLUTION}
Don't litter.
Another possibility is to use some type of forum setup where posts with the most comments or most recent comments are pushed to the top of the page.
For example, palmdalelee's post about Bill Clinton is the highest rated as I write this. Every time someone posts a comment, it could be moved to the top of the page.
Hope that makes some sense, and thanks for the work you do here, Mike.
And will you be posting the "diary rescue?"
sounds like a good plan...
I like the idea of moving newest posts to the top instead of the bottom. Anyone following the discussion would get the newest ideas.
If you can't monitor the posts and block posters who consistently violate the norms of mutual respect, then you will drive off anybody who is looking for thoughtful discussion and leave it as a sandbox of idiots bashing each other.