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WRITE IN HILLARY IN NOVEMBER!
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Rather than staying home or voting for McShit, I have decided to request a paper ballot and write Hillary's name in as my candidate of choice. Come November. No way Obama is getting my vote if he is handed an illegitimate win, or awarded delegates in an election whre he took his name off the ballot.

This whole primary STINKS in my book. The DNC has been taken over by clueless idiots who actually BELIEVE that all these Republicans support Obama for real. Wow how sad and deluded you are if you really believe that Republicans would fall head over heals for a Left wing, Marxist leaning, reverse racist, black candidate. I mean what planet did you grow up on? Republicans backing the most Liberal Democratic candidate since Jimmy Carter? ROFL Are you kidding me?

Wake up Obama supporters before it's too late! Hillary is the one Republicans DON'T WANT to run against McCain, not the left wing Marxist Obama. McCain is going to eat him alive.

Reader Comments
  
Re: DO THIS AND YOU
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:08 am EDT
No Offense Betty Lou, but PISS OFF! You're not a Democrat so why even post here?
Re: DO THIS AND YOU
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:12 am EDT
...one could ascertain the same concerning you!
  
Exactly
By Moses May 27th 2008 at 11:04 am EDT
Please explain how his nomination would be illegitimate. He is ahead in elected delegates and in contests won. Even with FL and MI included, that will not change. The only thing that changes with including FL and MI is that Clinton would lead in popular vote, but only if Obama is credited with 0 for MI. He would lead in popular if he is given any of the "uncommitted" from that primary. No charges of fraud have been leveled or proven against either of the two. So, again, how is his lead illegitimate?
Re: Exactly
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:15 am EDT
It takes 2,225 delegates to nominate LEGITIMATELY, not the Howard Dean and the Media's 2,025. Only if you leave out MI and FL does Obama have a legitimate lead in ACTUAL delegates.

Once FL and MI are counted FAIRLY, then Hillary takes the lead in ACTUAL delegates. You seem to forget that those Superdelegates can vote anyway they please despite where they stand now. And if Hillary pulls ahead in ACTUAL delegates, then Superdelegates would be going against the will of the people if they INSTALL Obama as the nominee just because all you "moon eyed" Obama GROUPIES think he is Jesus Christ incarnate.
Re: Exactly
By Moses May 27th 2008 at 11:19 am EDT
Please go back and reread my post. Even with FL and MI included, Obama will still have the lead in elected delegates, or actual delegates as you call them. Unless she really pulls an extremly large percentage of the remaining elected delegates, like about 80-90% of PR, SD, and MT, he will end up with the majority of the elected delegates.

So you have not explained, yet, how it is illegitimate if the person with the most elected delegates gets the nomination.
Re: Exactly
By Moses May 27th 2008 at 11:21 am EDT
what part of EVEN WITH FL and MI INCLUDED didn't you understand?
Re: Exactly
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:29 am EDT
Moses, forget it, they don't want to understand!

You see it's easier to spout the illegitmate primaries, rigged primaries, and try to believe it - than vote for the man.

Certain ones cannot come out and share their real reason - so they drum up these imaginary scenarios.

I have plenty "AGAINST" Hillary at this point; however, if she receives the nomination, I will support her.

This is what they can't explain! I feel about Hillary the same as they feel about Obama - but yet I can support her. Only one reason would explain not supporting him in kind.
Re: Exactly
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:21 am EDT
...and you think Hillary is Mother Theresa!!!
  
i would have taken
By Deb Wiliams May 27th 2008 at 11:05 am EDT
your post seriously - until you called Barack a marxist. you have no prupose here other than to incite an argument. the name calling of the candidate games are not appropriate - and you need to give it a rest.
Re: i would have taken
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:09 am EDT
Marxist! The man has a picture of Che Guevera in his campaign office. Marxist!
Re: i would have taken
By Deb Wiliams May 27th 2008 at 11:15 am EDT
- there is a site called the hillary clinton forum that you can go to and post and will be welcomed with all of your negativity - that way you don't have to be in a confrontational discussion with those on this site that oppose you.
Re: i would have taken
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:17 am EDT
Debbie, I wouldn't be a Democrat if I layed down and let idiots like you roll over me. So you actaully believe that Clinton supporters have NO RIGHT to speak here? Wow, what a good little Left Wing Fascist you will make.
Re: i would have taken
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:24 am EDT
Your comments are welcomed; however, you have a tendency to call names when certain ones who oppose your views have not called you any names.

What do you call that? Narrow-minded, maybe?
Re: i would have taken
By Deb Wiliams May 27th 2008 at 11:25 am EDT
why am i an idot Alex? i have not insulted you - how do you expect to earn merit for your proposed ideas for but hrc in the white house by insulting those that oppose u?
Democrats do not call other democrats "left-wing fascists" or marxists, or looneys for that matter!
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 12:10 pm EDT
Those are republican talking points and they have no place coming from one democrat to another.
  
Sorry
By Sandi May 27th 2008 at 11:06 am EDT
I just cannot vote for a racist, I will move my vote to the non-racist.
there must be some confusion - please stop playing the racist card
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 12:13 pm EDT
racists do not give speeches about healing the wounds of racism. racists do not pass civil rights legislation. racists exist, but there are none running for president.
  
YOU ARE AN ASS
By Sue Sue's Straight Talk Express May 27th 2008 at 11:11 am EDT
You must be a republican because you must know that in order to get the Republicans out of office, writing in a name is STUPID and will loose the election for the democrats. He is not winning illegitimately, the only reason you think that way is because the Clintons have pounded the fricking false nonsense into your stupid head. I am sorry to be so nasty today but people need to fricking grow up. The Clintons included.
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:22 am EDT
Screw you Sue! You ACT more like a Republican than I could ever sound. If you called me that to my face I'd slap the shit out of you.

This is the only defense you Obamaphiles have? Call anyone who doesn't LOOOOOVE Obama a Repugnican? It truly is laughable at best.

FYI GENIUS: 30 Years as a VOTING Democrat. ALWAYS Voted Democrat, and will this time too when I write in Hillary's name on my paper ballot. I WILL NOT vote for a candidate who I do not believe in or trust. NOBAMA '08!
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:25 am EDT
GOBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Dana's Blog May 27th 2008 at 11:28 am EDT
I can't believe this election has come to this. My brother-in-law and I were fighting like this yesterday.

What is the solution? This was supposed to be our big year.

I love Hillary but maybe we need someone else as the candidate. We will NEVER win with the current situation!
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Sue Sue's Straight Talk Express May 27th 2008 at 12:14 pm EDT
Dana,

Isn't is sad. I have not been so angry in my life and forgive me, but this is what happens with the Clintons. I have been studying them extensively since the 2000 election. They are divisive politicians. They too have that you are either with me or against me mentality.

And many people think that Obama came out of no where but that is simply not true, I have followed his career when he was in the Chicago State legislature and if you read the writing on the walls, you would have seen that he was beeing groomed by the party for bigger and better things.

Did you see the democratic convention in 2004, he was the keynote speaker. You should look for that clip. I said then, he will run in 2008. I knew it. Oh and if you are searching for clips, search for Al Sharpton's speech......it was out of this world!

Yes we have become a bunch of people infighting and it is wrong and I too must change. But I called my cousing a fricking dumb ass because he is voting Republican because they have values.....he fell for that crap!
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Deb Wiliams May 27th 2008 at 11:32 am EDT
wow alex - thats unfortunate that you would resort to hitting someone that disagrees with you.

wow
Re: YOU ARE A BIGGER ASS
By Sue Sue's Straight Talk Express May 27th 2008 at 12:08 pm EDT
Alex,

Whatever! I am sick to death of Clinton supporters not really being for the democratic party. I am sick of all the fricking whinning and the number crunching that is disengenuous. And slap away because then I would really have to cram my size 10 up your narrow minded ass.
  
Was Rush's Plan All For Naught?
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:12 am EDT
If the Pubs would rather face Obama, then why did Rush Limbaugh create his plan to have Hillary on the ballot as opposed to Obama?
  
Fed Up in Florida
By Dana's Blog May 27th 2008 at 11:12 am EDT
Does anyone know if you can write in a candidate in Florida? I'm trying to find out.
Re: Fed Up in Florida
By Donia19 May 27th 2008 at 11:15 am EDT
...check your state laws. Some states require the candidate to submit paperwork before being eligible to be written in.
Re: Fed Up in Florida
By Retired Army May 27th 2008 at 11:45 am EDT
Yes you must ask for a special balloting paper at the polling place. The vote will be recorded only as a protest vote unless Clinton (or the write in candidate) registers in the state prior to the elction as an independent.

We are planning on doing this but not for the reasons as stated above!
  
FUNNY
By Blueberry May 27th 2008 at 11:21 am EDT
My eyes are still soaking in my first cup of joe....I thought you wrote "Write in Hillarity..."

Which actually make more sense looking at your "reasons"....such a slanted perspective makes it obvious that you are relying too much on Hillary blogs for information and not examining the issues with an objective eye.
  
"not the left wing Marxist Obama."
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 11:22 am EDT
You are talking about the majority of your party.

The GOP always has and always will call us Democrats "left-wing marxists" or worse - that's because WE ARE LIBERALS!

It is time for intelligent liberalism to come back, and that's why millions upon millions of American citizens want Obama to be the next president.

The GOP will label *any* nominee the way you just did - even if that person were to be Hillary.

What I don't understand is when our fellow democrats use the word "left wing" like it's an epithet.

What party do you think this is anyway?
Re: "not the left wing Marxist Obama."
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 11:26 am EDT
I'm a moderate centrist, not a Left Wing Looney. You don't have to be so far to the left to be a Dem dickweed. Frankly Dems who are so far left are not the base of this party. MOST of us are more moderate.
umm, did you really just call me a dickweed?
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 11:41 am EDT
"I'm a moderate centrist, not a Left Wing Looney"

Look, if you hate liberals so much you are not going to have much fun in this party, because this is a liberal party OK?

How long have you felt this way about our party?

Here's a picture of what our party looks like in case you were confused: Link
  
We are writing in Clinton
By Retired Army May 27th 2008 at 11:51 am EDT
but not for some of your reasoning but because of a trust factor. We flat do not trust him because of some of the issues that have arisen during the campaign (religion, patriotism, easy ride with the media, allegience to friends and country, and other comments)!

We also realize that it will only register as a protest vote here in Florida unless Clinton registers as an independent prior to the GE. This is a protest vote not so much in favor of Clinton but against Obama and the tactics of the unfair DNC and member of the Stupid Delegate System of power grabbers!
Re: We are writing in Clinton
By Dana's Blog May 27th 2008 at 12:00 pm EDT
I pray if she does not get the nom that she will run as an Independent. It's the only hope I have any more.
Re: We are writing in Clinton
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 12:22 pm EDT
Dana, have you heard about the joint fundraising agreement Hillary and Barack signed with the DNC?

I think that signing that agreement erased any possibility of Hillary running on a third-party ticket.

She may not be winning the election, but she's still a democrat through and through.
But Army, by your own reasoning you should have the same trust issues with McCain
By D. Tree May 27th 2008 at 12:21 pm EDT
and on balance if you were given the choice between John McCain and some "unnamed" democrat who is not Hillary, but with whom you had the same trust issues: why wouldn't you cast your vote for the democrat, if only in solidarity with the millions of fellow democrats who are counting on you to support our party and win the election?
Re: But Army, by your own reasoning you should have the same trust issues with McCain
By Dana's Blog May 27th 2008 at 12:45 pm EDT
I will answer if Army isn't on. I have thought long and hard. I've debated and searched my soul. It comes back to one thing, and I know I'm gonna get a long lecture about it but save your breath.

I am a Jewish/Christian (don't ask) was baptized and loved the church I was in. When Bush started running they jumped on the wagon. I disagreed with their beliefs and I left.

I can't see sitting in the church Mr.Obama went to for 20 years listening to the Anti-American rhetoric and that doesn't bother anyone. As I have said before if he were white it would be the equivalent of him belonging to the KKK. Would you vote for him then.

I will not vote for McCain. I love this country,I am a Democrat, but if they decide to run someone that I have serious concerns about I can not vote for them just to be a good little girl.

I am not equating Mr.O. to Hitler (so don't start) but thats what happened in Germany!
  
Re: Okay...into the lions den.
By Dana's Blog May 27th 2008 at 11:58 am EDT
Same here, I'm in love with you too and I'm also a married woman. Always was attracted to gay guys though, usually the most attractive and they were easy to talk too!

But I think we're getting off track. It is nice to talk about something other than all this rhetoric.

Getting us absolutely nowhere but to another 4 years on McBush!!!
  
Friday will help us see what ....
By Magy May 27th 2008 at 12:26 pm EDT
....the next months will be like here.

I think we all know HILLARY will not run as an Independent. I hope that she gets the delegates she earned and that if that is the DNC's discussion, it will knock some sense into the "super delegates".
  
Life Long Democratic Activist
By palmdalelee May 27th 2008 at 12:38 pm EDT
I am a life long Democratic Activist. I am greatly concerned about the direction of our Party and am disheartened by the leadership of our Party. I fear that our Party is on the verge of nominating yet another candidate for President that simply can not and will not win in November, which is a shame considering this was supposed to be the year that Democrats would be able to re-take the White House with ease. Our Party does not seem to be able to learn from past mistakes, as we have nominated candidate after candidate that has been unelectable in the general election. The Party leaders and elite simply ignore the aspect of the reality of who can win the all important "Electoral Vote" which actually elects the President. Obama can not win this critical vote.

Obama simply can not win with the coaltion of voters that he currently has. He has won in states where there is an open primary or caucus, which has permitted Republicans to participate in selecting our Party's nominee. They want to run against Obama, as they know he can be defeated. They do not want to run against Hillary, as she is a seasoned veteran of the process and will not cave under the pressure of the Republican attack machine that will certainly be unleashed against Obama in the general election campaign. She has faced this attack machine many times in the past and knows how to deal with it. Obama cries foul even in the Primary process anytime criticism is directed towards him. He has shown it is very easy to get him off message and shift him toward a defensive mode. If he is forced to be on the defensive in the general election campaign, the old saying, "if you are on the defensive, then you are loosing", will be the reality of the election.

I am angry over the way that the Party leadership has attempted to manipulate this nominating process in the favor of Obama. I am angry over the way that the Party has treated voters from Michigan and Florida, as I see the voter disenfranchisement of the voters of these two states much worse than any of the voter disenfranchisement that Republicans have engaged in with respect to past elections.

I can not and will not support Obama if he is our Party's nominee. He lacks the experience needed to lead this nation in what could be described as one of the most difficult times of our nation's history. I am greatly concerned about his repeated plan to utilize funds currently being spent to finance the Iraq war to pay for his proposed programs. We currently are borrowing the money for the Iraq war from nations such as China, Mexico, Canada, etc., continuing to engage in deficit spending and running up the national debt. His plan to use these borrowed funds do nothing to end the deficit spending and reduce the national debt. His plans only will increase the deficit and the debt that will eventually bankrupt this nation. This continued approach to spending is totally irresponsible. We must return to the days, as we saw with President Bill Clinton, when we had a balanced budget, paid down the national debt, repaid borrowed funds from the Social Security Trust Fund and generated a budget surplus. Obama's plan falls far short of this. Our economy is in crisis and his plans to fund his proposals will do nothing to improve the economy, which is currently the number one issue on the minds of voters.

As I stated, I will not and can not support Obama in the general election. I will not support McCain either. I will vote for a Democrat by casting a write in vote for Hillary. Here in California, the Secretary of State and County Registrar's office has already published information mailed to voters, informing them of their rights to cast write in votes and providing the information to voters on how to cast a write in vote.

I will support Democratic candidates for the House and Senate, to help insure a veto proof Congress, which would in essence, make it a mute point about who occupies the White House.

I am so disappointed by the actions and direction that our Party has engaged in under the leadership of Howard Dean and the hiden agendas in favor of blindly nominating Obama simply for the purpose of being able to say that the Party nominated the first black to run for the Presidency with comments that hint at the message that somehow Obama is owed the nomination to "make up for hundreds of years of social injustice towards blacks" in this nation. The Party needs to be more concerned about the issues and support of the Latino and Asian populations that are constantly increasing in this nation. The black community's voting strength has been reduced due to the tremendous increase in Latino and Asian voters. Less attention needs to be spent on courting the black vote and bending over backwards to please them for fear of reprisal from black leaders such as Al Sharpton and his threats for protests. The Party needs to recognize and start showing action that confirms that it realizes that diversity is not just about blacks anymore. Diversity must include all ethnic groups, genders, socio-economic groups and sexual orientations. Diversity is not only about keeping the black community happy.

I will project, even as a life long loyal Democrat, that if Obama is nominated, we will see a McCain victory in November that will compare to the sweeping victories of Ronald Reagan.

I will honor my desire to always vote Democrat in all elections; however, it will not be by voting for Obama. I will cast a write in vote for Hillary Clinton.

If the leadership and direction of our Party does not change, I will consider leaving the Party, something that would be an action that I would not take lightly. Currently I feel that my leaving the Party would not be "me leaving the Party", it is more in line with "the Party has left me".
Re: Life Long Democratic Activist
By Alex May 27th 2008 at 2:02 pm EDT
Outstanding! Very well said. I agree 100%