...Well, that's what he'd do if he had any integrity at all. You can't VOLUNTARILY take your name off a ballot, then expect to win 40% of the delegates, and several of your opponents too...
...Unless you are of course...Barack Obama, the affirmative action candidate.
DNC to Obama: "No future president Obama, you don't have to actually WIN, we'll give you the delegates anyway! We just hate Hillary so much, we'll nominate anyone but her!" This is the biggest steaming pile of 400lb Gorilla crap I have ever seen. Obama has absolutely NO legitimacy at all.
My Mama taught me the same thing. What did their mothers teach those Hillary supporters who don't think she's getting a fair shake when she got more than she deserved out of her conniving the votes in Michigan and Florida after agreeing to discount them?
This is worth watching if you haven't:
So much emphasis is always devoted to national polling by the media, yet the only polling that is really valid, is the state by state head to head match ups, since we do not elect a President in this country by popular vote. We elect a President based on Electoral Votes; you win the state, you get all of the Electoral Votes.
No Democratic candidate has ever won the White House without winning in Ohio and West Virginia. In order to win in November, a candidate must be able to win in these states as well as in Electoral Vote rich states such as Michigan, Florida and Pennsylvania. So far, we have seen that only Hillary Clinton has been able to win in these states. Hillary Clinton won the biggest prize of them all, California, which is not a certaintity in November with Obama heading the ticket. Only Hillary Clinton has consistently been able to connect with and obtain the support of the low and middle class voters. Only Hillary Clinton has been able to gain the support of the Hispanic vote and the all important Catholic votes (which has chosen the President in 9 of the last 10 elections - only the contested 2000 vote were they wrong, yet were they really wrong?). Only Hillary Clinton has been able to obtain the support of women voters, which make up the majority of voters in most every state. Hillary Clinton has also won the support of the loyal Democratic voting block of the Gay and Lesbian Community.
The purpose of the addition of the Superdelegates was to assure that the Party nominates the candidate that has the best chance of putting together the coalition needed to win, especially in the states that are the traditional battleground states rich in Electoral Votes. Senator Obama has a real problem on his hands should he become the Party nominee. Nearly 50% of Democratic voters have stated in poll after poll that if Obama is the nominee, they will either defect and support McCain or will simply stay home on November 4, not voting for President. If he can not win the primaries in these all important Electoral Vote rich states, and can not garner the support of nealy half of our own Party to vote for him in November, how can we really expect him to win in the General Election.
I predict that if Obama is our Party's nominee, the results in Novemeber will closely resemble the one sided victories of Ronald Reagan, with Senator McCain on the winning side.
I have heard comments, even by news anchors, saying "how could the Democratic Party not give the nomination to Senator Obama, after all he is a black man and blacks have been on this continent for over 300 years and have been denied. How could the Party now deny him the nomination when a black man has struck gold?" Using this type of logic, then Hillary should receive the nod, after all, women have been denied and have been on this continent much longer than blacks. It is simply an absurb justification of giving a nomination to a candidate. I fear that many of the Superdelegates are swinging to Obama for fear of the impact by the black community towards the Party if he is not given the nomination, after all, Rev. Al Sharpton has already voiced intentions of creating havoc if Obama is denied. For some reason, many think that Obama is owed the nomination to make up for years of injustice in America towards blacks. It is almost like they feel he is entitled simply because he is black. The supers fear that they will be branded a racist by the likes of the Sharptons of the country, should they not pledge their support to the black candidate that has an opportunity for becoming the first black nominee for President.
I don't buy this way of thinking and I don't believe that voters in November will buy it either. This type of thinking in choosing our Party's nominee will only lead us to failure in November, as the Party will not have selected the candidate that has proven over and over the ability to win the core of our Party and the all important Electoral Vote rich states. Much of Obama's success has been in the caucus process states, which he will not have at his disposal in November. He has won in most of the predominately black Democratic vote Southern States, which will certainly go for John McCain in the General Election in November.
There have been so many calls, especially from the Party leadership, for Hillary to drop out and just hand over the nomination to Obama. There has been a bias towards Obama since the beginning of this campaign, not just by Democratic Party leadership, but also by the media. They wanted Hillary to drop out after the Iowa caucus. When Senator Edward Kennedy challenged President Jimmy Carter for the nomination in 1980, we did not hear calls for him to drop out. That campaign went all the way to the floor of the national convention where all the delegates were given the opportunity afforded by our Party's rules, to vote and decide the nominee. When Hart took on Mondale, there were no calls for him to drop out, it went to the convention floor. If the Party elite expect one candidate to drop out and simply hand over the nominaton to the other candidate, especially when the race has been so close, then why do the Party rules call for a roll call vote of the delgates?
Hillary Clinton has the best chance for our Party to win the states that must be won in November for a Democrat to retake the White House. She has the support of the type of voters that decide the general election every four years, the women, the Catholics, the low to middle income working class people. These groups were once called the "Reagan Democrats". They defected from our Party in the past, in support of Ronald Reagan because they did not like nor were they comfortable with the nominees of our Party. They have over and over expressed this same opinion in this campaign. They are the Democrats that make up the nearly 50% of Democratic voters that have been so clear that they will defect and vote for McCain or will simply not vote. Even in the Gay community, a group that has always been a very reliable Democratic block of voters, the same is true. More than 50% of GLBT voters will either stay home, support McCain, look to other parties outside of Democrats and Republicans or will write in the name of Hillary Clinton on their ballots in November. This group of loyal Democratic voters does not intend to be taken for granted as a "sure thing" in November and will defect if Senator Obama is the nominee. Statistics have shown that the GLBT vote gave Bill Clinton the margin of victory he needed to win his first campaign for the White House. There is deep seeded loyalty to the Clintons within the GLBT community, even with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy of the miliatary and the DOMA legistation. The loyalty stems from something much greater and more important to the GLBT community. Bill Clinton was the first President to ever say the word "AIDS", after having two Presidents that refused to say the word, refused to acknowledge that people were dying from this disease, refused to do anything to provide funding for care and research. Many GLBT people lost many friends, family members, loved ones and partners due to having Presidents that were willing to simply turn their heads and pretend the crisis did not exist, after all, it was only killing the "right people". The Clintons changed that and have continued to be leaders in the fight against AIDS. It was a Clinton that brought us the Ryan White Act, something that has been reauthorized every year under the Bush Administration but has not had the authorized funding fully released by the Treasury Department for any of the years of George W. Bush's terms.
Our Party can not expect the disapproval of George W. Bush's Administration to translate automatically to a win in November if our Party nominates the candiate that is not the one most likely to have the ability to win in the areas that must be won. We can not expect an automatic win in November with a candidate that has gone through the entire Primary season without being able to connect with the traditional core voters of our Party and the all important Independent voters. In Primaries that have been open primaries, where Republicans have been able to cross over and vote in the Democratic campaign, there is no secret why these cross over Republicans have been voting time and time again for Obama. It is not because they intend to support him in November. It is because they see him as the candiate that if nominated, will be the easiest to defeat in November. They have participated in the big scheme to manipulate the nomination of our Party in favor of Senator Obama. Party elite have engaged in this manipulation for their own reasons and Republicans have participated in this manipulation for their reason, to have a voice in who the Party nominates that will be the least likely to win in November. Unfortunatly, it appears that the Democratic Party leadership and elite can not see this fact. They belive, at least on the surface, that these Republican voters have crossed over in these open primary states because they now have had a change in heart and will support the Democratic Party in November. Living in a false reality will bring doom in November.
The superdelegates need to take the responsiblity placed on them, when their votes were created by the Party, seriously. The intent was to have the supers have an important say in making certain that our Party did not continue its long history of nominating candidates that simply can not win the states necessary to be elected in the Electoral College. Continued swings to Obama by the Supers tells me that they are not looking at the facts and the truths and are being blinded by the misleading Republican cross over votes, in adddition to their feeling some sort of duty to nominate Obama simply to be able to say, they supported and participated in giving the first black man in history the nomination of any party to have a chance at becoming President. They are courting future black voters in their own self interest. I think it is appropriate to point out that diversity is not limited to only blacks. In fact, the importance of the black vote in American elections, in diminishing, as Latinos have taken the lead in voting power in many of our states. In large states such as California, Latinos and Asians now surpass blacks in voting power and clout and in percentage of the State's population. The supers need to open their eyes and realize that nominating a candidate based on strong support of the black community is not as important as it was in the past. You can not win a national general election with only the loyal support of the black community, college aged voters (which are never a given for turning out and actually voting in the general election, as their turn out is historically lower on a general election day than in the Primary season), and the upper income voters. This is not and has never been, the coalition needed to win the General Election.
It is time for the Party to wake up and pay attention to the realities of who can actually win the states and groups of voters that time and time again, decide who is the occupant of the White House. That person is not Senator Obama, it is Senator Hillary Clinton.
Hillary said she would win big in Indiana and narrow the gap in North Carolina.
Well in the end of it all Indiana became 51% for Hillary and 49 % for Obama.
On the otherside of if Obama almost won Indiana and Hillary according to MsNbc gained only one addtionial delegate in her total win in Indiana.
In North Carolina Obama who the Clinton campaign had hopes of deflating won in high double digits and brought his popular vote back to where it was before the Pennsylvania Primary.
Hillary according to many of the front page newspapers and Tv News has lost the nomination and even some of her closest supporters like George McGovern who is not a SuperDelegate has called for Hillary to end her campaign.
Dianne Feinstein a strong supporter of Hillary is now wanting answers on where and what the next plan is to continue running this campaign till the end.
So far Hillary has not yet called her.
The campaign was a battle that Clinton gave all she had and the Kitchen Sink .
In the end her negative campaign against Senator Obama did not work .
One is the negatives in the polls for Hillary are high.
People fine her to have run an extremely well put together negative campaign .
Then she supported the Gasoline Tax Holiday and I believe that in the end people started to realize how much of a phony she was agreeing with Senator McCain who presented this failed idea in the first place.
That and I believe people finally have had enough of the type of campaigning that sounded more and more each day like a Republican running and not a Democrat.
Her remarks on Iran also did not help her in this past Tuesdays Primary.
People are tired of the War and the younger voters decided with more educated voted and educated working class people to vote for a change from the past to the future thats what this campaign is really all about.
So Hillary you fought the good fight used everything you could from the Kitchen and now its really the end even if you in your own mind cannot yet accept this its the end its over .
I would ask you Senator Clinton to do the Democratic base a favor now and for the unity of the Democratic Party drop out of the race for President save whatever redeeming qualities you have left before you dig yourself deeper in the Gutter .
I will not review all the final numbers of both States at this point no need to.
The writing is on the Poltical war for Hillary is over.
I ask all Democrats who supported Hillary to join the Obama supporters and vote to defeat John McCain lets end 8 years of Republican rule in November Yes We Can do this and Yes You can aswell.
This is a huge turn around from what it was just a few short weeks ago.
Delegates and Superdelegates need to be looking at this trend very carefully when making up their minds about who to support.
From this information, it is obvious that many Democrats that have already gone to the polls in past months and supported Obama, no longer view him as their choice for the Nomination.
The poll also shows Senator Clinton leading John McCain in head to head match ups in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, while Obama trails McCain in these important Electoral Vote rich states.
For the first time in many years, decades in fact, we have a close race going on for the Democratic Nomination for President. It is wrong to ask or expect any viable candidate to drop out before the roll call of delegates is held at the National Convention. For too long, both Parties have held coronations of their nominee, long before they ever arrive at the Convention. If that is what is expected, then what is the need to have the Convention at all? If the Party leadership wants a coronation of a nominee without a single vote of delegates, then save the money that the Party will spend on the National Convention and use it more effectively in the General Election campaign against the Republicans. If the purpose of the National Convention is not to actually elect the nominee, then I can only assume that it is nothing more than a scripted photo op and podium for a select few to advance their future political aspirations by making speeches from the podium before a national television audience. An aspect that becomes less and less important over the years as fewer and fewer Americans actually watch the coverage of the National Conventions of either Party.
Over the course of this long and heated Primary Campaign, many things have changed since the first votes were cast in Iowa and New Hampshire. Issues have changed, candidates have stumbled and public opinions have changed. We owe it to our form of democracy to allow the process to proceed all the way until the end, permitting all delegates to have their say, as some pledged delegates may have shifted their allegiance and there are still many uncommitted and superdelegates that have yet to express their choice for the Party's Nominee. These uncommitted and Superdelegates must not be forced by any Party leadership to cast their vote unofficially prior to the Denver Convention and roll call of delegates. The reality of today is that the only time that the average America actually watches the political conventions is when the roll call of delegates is being held.
Taking this process all the way to the National Convention in Denver can only strengthen our Party, especially with the average American voter that is not a political activist for either Party. They will see it as the Democratic Party giving the process the opportunity to play out without manipulation and interference from Party leadership. It sends the message that our Party values the voices of all Americans and is willing to let there be a real, unplanned vote for our Party standard bearer.
Perhaps in future Presidential Elections, our Party should make some major revisions to the process. I always understood that the Rules Committee permitted Iowa and New Hampshire to have their respective forms of elections in order to preserve their "First in Nation Status". I do not understand why the Rules Committee saw it to be appropriate to give favored status to Nevada and South Carolina, by exempting them from the restrictions of no State having their primary elections prior to this year's Super Tuesday. Our current system allows for the injection of momentum for one candidate over another based on who won the last State holding their election. The current system permits voters to cast their votes based on emotions and not solely on the candidates' positions of the many critical issues that face the nation. The Rules Committee should mandate, for future Presidential Primary seasons, a National Primary Day, where all States and Territories hold their elections on the same day. No State should be given preference in the primary election process. We should also abandon the Caucus system used by some States. This process does not rise to the charge of our Party, to enlist the highest amount of voter participation in the process by making the process easier and more accessible for all registered voters. We see over and over that the Caucus system does not have anywhere near the percentage of voter participation as does the Primary election system. It is essentially a system that is designed only for those voters that are the real dedicated activist that have the time to spend in a caucus hall for hours upon hours, engaged in a battle of words to sway attendees to support one candidate over another. This is a luxury of time that most voters today do not have. It is difficult enough to get people to participate in a regular form of elections, we do not need to make it even more difficult and restrictive. Our Party Chairman once said that the caucus system is only meant to be a "Party Building Tool", to identify those voters that are willing to go the extra step to participate in the system. This is not what elections are supposed to be about. Elections are supposed to be held to enable as many registered voters as possible, to express themselves by casting a ballot in private without any attempts to influence them or intimidate them to support one candidate over another. This is far from what we see in the Caucus system.
It is time for us to let our Party leadership hear our voices telling them to stay out of the established process and discontinue efforts to end the process before any delegates are permitted to carry out their duties at the National Convention. We need to let our Party's leadership know that it is unacceptable and against every principle that the Democratic Party has always represented, to attempt to force any candidate to withdraw from the process before the final votes are counted at the National Convention. This nomination is not the property of the Party leaders or Party elders. This nomination belongs to the People of the United States and the voices of millions of Americans must be heard in Denver openly for all to witness.
I have seen head to head polling data for key States that Democrats must win in November in order to win the all important electoral vote to regain the White House. In head to head matchups, Obama is either tied or trailing in these State polls for key States such as Ohio and Florida, while Senator Clinton leads Senator McCain in these States. The November General Election will not have any Caucus systems, which have favored Senator Obama, as they are not set up to engage the maximum number of voters as does a Primary election.
It should be noted that the Catholic Vote has picked the next President correctly in 9 of the last 110 Presidential Elections, the only exception being the 2000 Gore vs Bush campaign, where Gore actually won the popular vote but lost the all important Electoral Vote. Senator Clinton is receiving upwards of 70% of the important Catholic Vote.
Senator Obama has also lost his hold on the white male vote, with that vote going to Senator Clinton in Pennsylvania.
Senator Clinton continues to dominate with the senior votes as well, a group that is the most consistent voting group in every election, always reliable to turn out and actually vote.
I posted polls on a GLBT Social Website Blog to measure the views of the GLBT community towards this election. The GLBT vote makes up roughly 10% of voters in this country. The polling found an overwhelming support for Senator Clinton over Senator Obama. This voting group can not be taken for granted to go Democrat in November is Senator Clinton is not the Party Nominee. In another poll I took related to what GLBT votes will do in November if Senator Clinton is not the nominee, I found the following results:
I will support the Dem. Nominee regardless of who it is: 18.5%
I will switch and support Senator McCain: 29.6%
I will stay at home and not vote on election day: 11.1%
I will look to candidates from Parties other than the Democrats and Republicans in November: 14.8%
I will vote Democrat by writing in the name of Senator Hillary Clinton on my November ballot: 11.1%
I will support Democratic Congressional candidates but not vote for President: 14.9%
To summarize this polling, 26% stated they would not vote for President if Senator Clinton is not the nominee. 44.9% said they would support a candidate from another Party. 18.5% said they will support the Democratic Nominee regardless of who it is. 11.1% said they will do a write in vote for Senator Clinton.
For a candidate that has billed himself as being different, not the typical politician and free from the Washington insider influence, he certainly has a lot of baggage surfacing in his campaign. There are many issues that have arisen that have been viewed by middle class voters as concerning and divisive. He has continually offered up policies and programs for domestic spending that relies on continued deficit spending and borrowing from China to pay for his programs, by saying he would re-appropriate funding for the Iraq War to his domestic agenda. This is irresponsible, as our nation can not continue on this path of deficit spending and borrowing from China if we are to get our economy back on track.
As a retired healthcare administrator, I have closely examined the plans for healthcare reform by all three candidates in this campaign. With my inside knowledge of how our system works and where there is room for great improvement, I can tell you that the only candidate that fully understands how our healthcare system works and what is broken about it, is Senator Clinton. She says things in her proposals that could only be stated by someone that is fully connected and understanding of how our current system actually works.
Pledged delegates elected, are not bound by any Party rules or law, to vote at the Convention in Denver, on the first of subsequent balloting, for the candidate they were pledged to support. Uncommitted delegates and Superdelegates are allowed to vote for whomever they want. All delegates must now look at the reality of what is facing our Party and its ability to win this election in November. We must vote to nominate the candidate that can win in the important "battle ground" States that are rich with Electoral Votes. Our Party must win either Ohio or Florida or both, to retake the White House from Republicans, something that State by State head to head match up polling shows Senator Obama unable to do.
We must keep in mind, as we go to Denver to nominate our Party's candidate for President, the most important aspect of a Presidential race, the ability to win the Electoral Votes.
At the end of May, Party officials will meet to decide what to do about the delegates from Florida and Michigan. It should be noted that in Florida, all Democratic Candidates names were on the ballot and in fact, according to people I speak with from that State, Senator Obama was the only Democratic Candidate that actually ran TV ads in the State prior to that Primary vote. The vote of the people of Florida must stand as it was decided and the delegates seated in accordance with the voice of the people of that State. In Michigan, no Democratic candidate campaigned there and it was a decision of each candidate as to whether they removed their name from the ballot or not, something that some did and some did not. It was their choice to decide. Michigan must also be seated with delegates assigned in accordance with the vote of the people of that State.
Democrats have for years lodged allegations of voter disenfranchisement by Republicans in specific precincts in key States. If our Party does not seat the delegates of Florida and Michigan in accordance with the votes of the people there, then our Party's disenfranchisement of voters will be far worse than anything ever done by the Republicans. This will certainly come back to haunt our Party in November, as the people of those two States will receive a message from our Party that we do not feel their voices matter or are important. They will certainly take pause before supporting our Party's Nominee if they feel that their voices were not heard and were cast aside as if they did not count.
I strongly encourage all delegates to now search their souls and look at which of our two remaining candidates can actually win the all important Electoral Votes, especially in the large States that have so many Electoral Votes, such as California, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, etc., all States that were won by Senator Clinton. All delegates must keep in mind that many of the States that Senator Obama has won has been in States that have had caucus voting and not Primary voting. This is important to look at, as the General Election will not have this form of voting that has worked so well for Senator Obama. Our Party can also not win in November only on the strength of the vote from the black community for Senator Obama, the only traditional block of the Democratic base that has consistently and strongly supported him in every contest.
Senator Obama has already complained about campaign attacks and tactics in the Primary season, saying that tough questions from the media directed at him are unfair, yet every word Senator Clinton has spoken has been subjected to much closer scrutiny than anything Senator Obama has said. If he and his campaign think that what they have recently been subjected to is tough to deal with, causing him to go on the defensive as he has done, he has seen nothing in comparison to what he would be subjected to in a General Election campaign when the Republican Attack machine will be in full gear going after him. If he can't take the heat now, how will he deal with the extreme pressures of a General Election Campaign? Senator Clinton is seasoned at dealing with Republicans attacking her, as she has been the target of their vicious attacks since her husband's first campaign for the Presidency and it has never let up. She has always been able to withstand and fight back successfully against Republican tactics and will continue to do so.
I strongly encourage all delegates to vote for the candidate that will actually be able to win the Electoral Vote in November and support Senator Clinton. As a life long Democratic activist that has been involved in many Presidential campaigns in my life, I do not want our Party to make the mistakes of the past by nominating someone that we all know in our hearts, can not actually win the Electoral Votes in the key "battle ground" States. We have in the past, made this mistake over and over in past decades and it is now time for our Party and the delegates; pledged, uncommitted and Superdelgates, to learn from the past mistakes of our Party and nominate the candidate that can actually win in November.
Talking Points Memo has something interesting that again shows the two-faced attitudes of the Clinton camp as a whole.
You'll find it here:
I always vote but I (or any of my friends or family) didn't vote in this primary that didn't count.
I guess, to be fair, if we are going to count the "vote" we have to count the 1.7 million Michigan Dems that didn't vote as "none of the above".
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